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Canyonman
03-04-2010, 02:55 PM
FCIF announcement: April bid pak delayed. NLT March 5 1800 cst. :mad:


Cujo
03-04-2010, 03:13 PM
FCIF announcement: April bid pak delayed. NLT March 5 1800 cst. :mad:

is that because there is no more 4a2b? Hmmmm

MaydayMark
03-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Maybe the date (known for at least the past 10 years) snuck up on management? We deserve better support ... what would they say if I showed up for my trip a day late?

Disappointed (but not surprised) ... Mark :eek:


highflyer
03-04-2010, 03:26 PM
Maybe has something to do with SIG re involvement?

frozenboxhauler
03-04-2010, 03:30 PM
Maybe has something to do with SIG re involvement?

Bingo!
fbh

Time Off
03-04-2010, 04:11 PM
Then why no communication from the Union?

Overnitefr8
03-04-2010, 05:11 PM
Nope, this is how they can say a big bid is coming out on Friday. :rolleyes: :)

NoHaz
03-04-2010, 07:08 PM
the good news is the monthly bid input is open ............ who needs a bidpack anyway

Busboy
03-04-2010, 07:16 PM
Why do we have to go through this every time a bidpack doesn't come out on Thursday? They're not late!!:confused:

CBA 25.B.3. Bid period packages shall be published between 20 and 25 days prior to the beginning of the bid period...

If it was announced that the bidpacks were not going to be published until next Tuesday...Then, I'd start whining.

FDXCapt
03-04-2010, 07:19 PM
... what would they say if I showed up for my trip a day late?

"You're fired!"

Gunter
03-05-2010, 02:55 AM
the good news is the monthly bid input is open ............ who needs a bidpack anyway

gutsiest move I ever saw

Cujo
03-05-2010, 03:25 AM
the good news is the monthly bid input is open ............ who needs a bidpack anyway

At least you can click on the Monthly Bid link and see just about everything but the lines/pairings.... i.e. BLG/RLG and RSV lines :(

Bitme
03-05-2010, 03:33 AM
gutsiest move I ever saw

you forgot the "Maverick":)

CargoCan
03-05-2010, 08:30 AM
I don't know what all the fuss is about. 9952.

Sea Pig
03-05-2010, 10:23 AM
Well the 727 lines are out. 117 in the left seat, 118 in the right, and 137 for the panel. The S/O lines look to average less than 65 hours, with a few offering 25 days off.

The guys in front average more, but it looks like all are bought up to 78:25 hours according to the info page. Can that be right?. Not as good a deal for the reserves with 16 days off. Still with SAM minus 3.5, I'm buying drinks for anyone on the NC.

727 Lines (https://pilot.fedex.com/vips-bin/vipscgi?webbpslns?APR10?MEM?27S??P)

Overnitefr8
03-05-2010, 11:21 AM
They're out now.

FDXLAG
03-05-2010, 12:36 PM
City purity, sweet.

MaydayMark
03-05-2010, 01:05 PM
OK ... my bid pack is available but no luck getting the ALPA "DP" button to work (with any of my 3 browsers). Anybody have them available? Thanks ...

SKYKN6
03-05-2010, 04:22 PM
OK ... my bid pack is available but no luck getting the ALPA "DP" button to work (with any of my 3 browsers). Anybody have them available? Thanks ...
Dontwurryadoutit til open time is available for viewing to request on secondary lines(reg lines awarded) . Regular lines only have trips that suck a little bit.:rolleyes:

AirHead328
03-05-2010, 06:20 PM
Man...am I reading all this right? Maybe for once it is paying to be in the back of the 727. I can hold a line that works 10 days and it gets bought up and pays 78.25!

Still sucks to be below the 85, but the pay per work day average is looking nice right now!

30 From Bottom
03-05-2010, 06:52 PM
Man...am I reading all this right? Maybe for once it is paying to be in the back of the 727. I can hold a line that works 10 days and it gets bought up and pays 78.25!

Still sucks to be below the 85, but the pay per work day average is looking nice right now!
Shhhhh....keep moving...nothing to see here over 60s;)

Busboy
03-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Man...am I reading all this right? Maybe for once it is paying to be in the back of the 727. I can hold a line that works 10 days and it gets bought up and pays 78.25!

Still sucks to be below the 85, but the pay per work day average is looking nice right now!

I'm sure it's just ALPAs latest scheme to give a good deal to the senior guys.:rolleyes:

Gunter
03-06-2010, 05:58 AM
I'm sure it's just ALPAs latest scheme to give a good deal to the senior guys.:rolleyes:

It's about time something went to someone other than the most senior.

You probably don't notice it where you sit but 727 morale was in the crapper.

I am also glad the averages came up on the Bus and MD. I'm sure morale was hurting on the Bus too.

Without this agreement, things would have looked pretty bleak for the 727 folks. I'm thankful.

Magenta Line
03-06-2010, 06:43 AM
Anyone seen the Apr SIG notes? 0942 LBT, Sat, 6 Mar.........

Gunter
03-06-2010, 07:57 AM
The company will now have to pay lots of buy up if they continue down the path of making our manning unreasonably lopsided.

My only question is why did it take a settlement to make them do what should have been doing all along? Perhaps the managers working closest to pilots have been rewarded for their 'take no prisoners' style of leadership for so long they couldn't summon any integrity to go a different direction. The well was dry.

Now the push will be to keep buy up as low as possible. A goal the bean counters understand and can rally around. Hopefully that will be good for the pilots too. But I don't pretend that any manager low enough to interface with pilots cares if it does.

MaydayMark
03-06-2010, 08:58 AM
City purity, sweet.

MD MEM seem to have more city purity also ... I suppose some folks like that?

A surprising amount of CDG (Paris) - HKG (Hong Kong) - CDG mid trip flights?

I'm surprised to see how many west coast deadheads (LAX. LAS, PHX) there are? Why wouldn't the LAX based guys fly these trips?

AirHead328
03-06-2010, 09:06 AM
My only question is why did it take a settlement to make them do what should have been doing all along?

Standard union bashing 101 before contract negotiations... The company got lucky to be able to have the "economy" as a great tool to twist everyone just a little extra. They took so much from us for so long, divided the pilot group, and now when they just start to give a little back, everyone feels like the company is being so generous...just to get back to where we were before.

DaRaiders
03-06-2010, 10:54 AM
It's about time something went to someone other than the most senior.
You probably don't notice it where you sit but 727 morale was in the crapper.

I am also glad the averages came up on the Bus and MD. I'm sure morale was hurting on the Bus too.

Without this agreement, things would have looked pretty bleak for the 727 folks. I'm thankful.

What do you mean? I see plenty of "seniors" on the 27 panel. :rolleyes:

MEMFO4Ever
03-06-2010, 11:12 AM
Standard union bashing 101 before contract negotiations... The company got lucky to be able to have the "economy" as a great tool to twist everyone just a little extra. They took so much from us for so long, divided the pilot group, and now when they just start to give a little back, everyone feels like the company is being so generous...just to get back to where we were before.

Believe me it wasn't "a little extra" and I'm not likely or soon to forget. A nice shot across the proverbial bow will be a 'no' vote to whatever first draft TA the NC crafts with these criminals.

They always look greedy. It is our turn.