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MaydayMark
03-23-2010, 05:20 PM
Forbes most miserable cities ... :confused:

Top 20 America's Most Miserable Cities 2010 | EpidemicFun.com (http://www.epidemicfun.com/2010/top-20-americas-most-miserable-cities-2010/)

Memphis, which came in third thanks to the second-worst rate of violent crime in the U.S. and an alarming rate of convicted public officials.


Stratosphere
03-23-2010, 10:32 PM
Forbes most miserable cities ... :confused:

Top 20 America's Most Miserable Cities 2010 | EpidemicFun.com (http://www.epidemicfun.com/2010/top-20-americas-most-miserable-cities-2010/)

Memphis, which came in third thanks to the second-worst rate of violent crime in the U.S. and an alarming rate of convicted public officials.

Actually I would vote Mempho #1 but I digress. For what it's worth Mempho was #2 last yr and is now #3.. So does that mean we are getting better?.:(

LivingInMEM
03-23-2010, 11:21 PM
So, does that mean things would be better if the corrupt officials weren't getting convicted? What kind of measurement is that?

All else being equal, I would rather the corrupt officials get convicted than not (as in Chicago or New Orleans).


meatloaf
03-24-2010, 12:21 AM
So, does that mean things would be better if the corrupt officials weren't getting convicted? What kind of measurement is that?

All else being equal, I would rather the corrupt officials get convicted than not (as in Chicago or New Orleans).


Well, that's kind of like trying to polish a turd, isn't it?

R1200RT
03-24-2010, 05:11 AM
You can find anything on the internet.

YouTube - SARASOTA FLORIDA CRIME HIGHEST IN AMERICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLTenbd8EZo)


MONEY Magazine: Best places to live 2007: Memphis, TN snapshot (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/snapshots/PL4748000.html)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61H5WN20100218

http://www.streetgangs.com/news/111409_five-worst-cities-for-urban-youth

http://www.farmersalmanac.com/blog/2006/10/06/the-10-worst-weather-cities/

http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2009/07/08/top-10-worst-traffic-cities-in-the-united-states-for-2009/

You guys stop trying to make yourselves feel better for spending more time away from your kids. Lots of worst out there (guess I could spend another 10 seconds and find your city is the worst at something)

drftddgr
03-24-2010, 06:03 AM
Well, that's kind of like trying to polish a turd, isn't it?


mythbusters proved that it is possible to polish the right kind of turd to a very high gloss:D

USNFDX
03-24-2010, 06:29 AM
You can find anything on the internet.

YouTube - SARASOTA FLORIDA CRIME HIGHEST IN AMERICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLTenbd8EZo)


MONEY Magazine: Best places to live 2007: Memphis, TN snapshot (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/snapshots/PL4748000.html)

Cleveland deemed most miserable city in USA | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61H5WN20100218)

The 5 Worst Cities for Urban Youth | Street Gangs Resource Center – Los Angeles and California | The Gang Experts | Crips | Bloods | Mara Salvatrucha | 18th Street (http://www.streetgangs.com/news/111409_five-worst-cities-for-urban-youth)

The 10 Worst Weather Cities | Farmers' Almanac (http://www.farmersalmanac.com/blog/2006/10/06/the-10-worst-weather-cities/)

Top 10 Worst Traffic Cities in the United States For 2009 : The Real Estate Bloggers (http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2009/07/08/top-10-worst-traffic-cities-in-the-united-states-for-2009/)

You guys stop trying to make yourselves feel better for spending more time away from your kids. Lots of worst out there (guess I could spend another 10 seconds and find your city is the worst at something)

Interestingly, none of the above links you post actually say anything positive about Memphis.

The Money Magazine one only allows you to "compare " Memphis to one of their top places to live.

There are tradeoffs with everything, I lived on the planet for five years. It certainly had its advantages with regard to the job. For ME that was about it. Others certainly enjoy it! We're all different.

I liken it to that "dysfunctional relationship", you don't realize how bad it really is, until you get away from it.

aircum
03-24-2010, 06:56 AM
Left the planet this past summer after 6 years. It was great while the kids are growing, however we set a goal to only live there 5 years(took a year to sell). I could not wait to LEAVE!! The only nice thing to say about Memphis is there are some nice people around, however the constant crime is too much for me. Yes Gtown, and Cville have crime too!!

golfandfly
03-24-2010, 07:35 AM
aircum,

Are you living in a land without crime now? Let me hear about it?

FANS cripple
03-24-2010, 09:30 AM
aircum,

Are you living in a land without crime now? Let me hear about it?

Yeah, unless there's literally zero crime where you are, I can't see why you'd leave a city ranked in the top five for violent crime for the last few years. Mind-boggling, really.




I love these threads. Here, someone else tell me how awesome Memphis is, then get upset when I tell you I don't really care for it.

Clrd2Lnd
03-24-2010, 10:27 AM
Been in Memphis for 20 years...love it...never seen crime...but I don't hang in da hood though

Jetjok
03-24-2010, 11:47 AM
Have you ever turned on the TV, or listened to the radio, or read the Commercial Appeal newspaper? Because if you had, you've "seen" crime. Big time. Of course, most guys I know who say they live in Memphis actually mean that they live in Collierville, Cordova, Germantown, Bartlett, or Olive Branch, etc, etc. Of the thousand or so guys I do know who live down there, perhaps 20 actually live in Memphis proper. Where do you live?

JJ

golfandfly
03-24-2010, 12:08 PM
It makes no difference to me if you like Memphis or not. Aircum talked about the crime in Germantown and Collierville. I would put either city up against most in the country. Memphis proper - no way. The crime in certain areas is terrible. Fortunately very little makes it way to the suburbs, although some most certainly does. Unless your living in Mayberry (not including Otis), there is usually a small amount of crime. The suburbs are terribly boring, but very safe. This is just my opinion.

BOYCAPTAIN
03-24-2010, 12:10 PM
.............

golfandfly
03-24-2010, 12:14 PM
Oh my god, the carnage!!!!

R1200RT
03-24-2010, 12:48 PM
.............

enjoy the day!

Dakota
03-24-2010, 03:40 PM
Been in Memphis for 20 years...love it...never seen crime...but I don't hang in da hood though

....and voted for Obama!

subicpilot
03-24-2010, 03:59 PM
Memphis Crime Tracker - crime.commercialappeal.com (http://memphiscrimetracker.com/)

OffRoad5150
03-24-2010, 04:37 PM
Makes these years of commuting worth it!

Busboy
03-24-2010, 07:20 PM
Would I live in MEM if I didn't work for FDX?

Once upon a time...That's the question I asked myself. The answer was no. Of course not. So, why would I think my family would want to? They didn't. So we left, and lived happily ever after. :)

Canyonman
03-25-2010, 12:00 PM
Forbes most miserable cities ... :confused:

Top 20 America's Most Miserable Cities 2010 | EpidemicFun.com (http://www.epidemicfun.com/2010/top-20-americas-most-miserable-cities-2010/)

Memphis, which came in third thanks to the second-worst rate of violent crime in the U.S. and an alarming rate of convicted public officials.

Bro,

Give it a rest. Mempho always ranks in the top 5 on someone's worst list for the last 20 years. Tell us something new. If it wasn't for the Med doing such a great job in saving lives we would be number 1 for murders :eek:

Unless you live in Maui or Mount Whistler, you have nothing on me ;)

Stratosphere
03-25-2010, 06:59 PM
Been in Memphis for 20 years...love it...never seen crime...but I don't hang in da hood though

I guess I have turned a blind eye too..Until I was held up at gunpoint right in front of my house in Horn Lake MS.. Makes you think...

R1200RT
03-26-2010, 07:08 AM
Gosh, not one commuter has posted where they live, guess you guys are scared of what you might find out about your town via the internet. Come on lets hear about where you live.

trigg41
03-26-2010, 07:34 AM
Anchorage...other body found downtown this week

DoubleD
03-26-2010, 08:06 AM
Gosh, not one commuter has posted where they live, guess you guys are scared of what you might find out about your town via the internet. Come on lets hear about where you live.

Grand Forks - We have crime like MEM. Just the other day I saw someone crossing the street and not using the crosswalk.

The Walrus
03-26-2010, 08:13 AM
Crime Rate Comparison: Grand Forks Vs. Memphis (http://grandforks.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Grand+Forks&s1=ND&c2=memphis+&s2=TN)

Funny, they didn't bother to compare the well known "Sex with Sheep" category. There must be a cover up.:eek:

MaydayMark
03-26-2010, 08:36 AM
Crime Rate Comparison: Grand Forks Vs. Memphis (http://grandforks.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Grand+Forks&s1=ND&c2=memphis+&s2=TN)




Cool website Walrus :cool:

FrankTheTank
03-26-2010, 08:53 AM
Type in one of the burbs (Germantown, Bartlett, etc) and then watch the graph change!

viperdriver
03-26-2010, 08:56 AM
Run Collierville vs Grand Forks. Auto theft, theft and burglary higher in grand forks. Murder was lower but I think because it is too cold for bullets.

FANS cripple
03-26-2010, 08:58 AM
Gosh, not one commuter has posted where they live, guess you guys are scared of what you might find out about your town via the internet. Come on lets hear about where you live.

Oh, don't get me wrong, Anchorage is kind of a dump too. But I won't get defensive if you hate it.

The Walrus
03-26-2010, 09:06 AM
It is based on 2006 rates though. In defense of Memphis proper, their rate is down from 2006.

Also, the Memphis Police Commissioner made the decision to report crimes differently than most large cities. I think that it has to do with not including suburbs such as Germantown, Collierville, Bartlett, Lakeland and others which would bring the numbers down. Most other large cities do include those types of surrounding areas as much as possible, to make their numbers look better.

I was born and raised in Memphis, and live in Midtown. Yes, there is a bad crime problem in Memphis. Yes, the same problem exists in parts of all large cities. Personally, I have never had a problem, but there are areas to stay away from, and I do, except when going to and from work. I am just glad that the majority of Fedex pilots feel like Memphis is the worst place in the world. It gives me a lot more relative seniority, and much more time off.

MD11Fr8Dog
03-26-2010, 09:13 AM
Gosh, not one commuter has posted where they live, guess you guys are scared of what you might find out about your town via the internet. Come on lets hear about where you live.

I live in Southern Pines/Pinehurst, NC! Please compare and show me how the Memphis area is better! I'll concede 1 item, I pay NC taxes! Other than that??? :rolleyes:

MeXC
03-26-2010, 09:30 AM
I live in Nashville. I consider it a suburb of Memphis...in the sense that this is as close as I'd like to live to Memphis.

R1200RT
03-26-2010, 11:09 AM
I live in Southern Pines/Pinehurst, NC! Please compare and show me how the Memphis area is better! I'll concede 1 item, I pay NC taxes! Other than that??? :rolleyes:

Hey I DID NOT say Memphis was great/or better than anything, I said all places have good and bad. I know you know this S since we have talked at great length about it. Now you have a very cool/unique deal. Like I told you if guys live in a neighborhood anywhere in the country I'd rather it be where I can spend the max time with my family. You are a rock-star and live on a farm, I'd still pick family, but your deal would be tempting.

MD11Fr8Dog
03-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Hey I DID NOT say Memphis was great/or better than anything, I said all places have good and bad. I know you know this S since we have talked at great length about it. Now you have a very cool/unique deal. Like I told you if guys live in a neighborhood anywhere in the country I'd rather it be where I can spend the max time with my family. You are a rock-star and live on a farm, I'd still pick family, but your deal would be tempting.

No rock star status here, and yes I do live on a farm - so how have I picked against family, as your statement implies? BTW - my "deal" is cool, but not "unique" where I live. Its just what we have chosen. You have chosen to live differently.

We rarely lock our doors, I'm comfortable with my 6 yr old daughter roaming our acreage, or each of my 5 immediate neighbor's acreage (close to 100 aces total), as long as I know, and as long as her dog follows with her - she has a modified (24v I converted from 12v - goes fast) electric car she drives around to visit neighbors. We fish in our ponds, we catch turtles, ride our horses, explore the woods and swamp on our property, enjoy our pets (3 barn cats, 4 house cats and a dog), tree fort/zip line in the works, mess around outside, etc. She rarely watches TV - one movie a week as a family (I hate CareBears, btw).

As someone else stated here earlier, would I chose to live in the Memphis area if I didn't work there? Heck no, so I'm not going to subject my wife and family to living there against their will. I was willing to move there, and as you know, we looked. But nothing we found was worth the move. So, I'd say I picked family too! ;)

If you're happy, that's great. Most of us that don't live in the Memphis area are happier to not live there for whatever each of our individual reasons might be. No need to keep lauding the wonderful attributes of Melvis every time the subject comes up! We know how much you love it! ;)

Of course, your mileage may vary, some settling of contents may have occurred during shipping and handing and void where prohibited!

Lippy
03-26-2010, 07:38 PM
If you don't live in Memphis, you're dumb.

FDX28
03-27-2010, 05:43 AM
Memphis was featured on the show "Gangland" on the History channel last night. Didn't paint south side in a very good light.. :eek:

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 08:31 AM
No rock star status here, and yes I do live on a farm - so how have I picked against family, as your statement implies? BTW - my "deal" is cool, but not "unique" where I live. Its just what we have chosen. You have chosen to live differently.

If you're happy, that's great. Most of us that don't live in the Memphis area are happier to not live there for whatever each of our individual reasons might be. No need to keep lauding the wonderful attributes of Melvis every time the subject comes up! We know how much you love it! ;)

Of course, your mileage may vary, some settling of contents may have occurred during shipping and handing and void where prohibited!


I didn't copy your complete deal, but I don't lock our doors much, we have an electric car (Obama and you paid for) and my kids run all over the place and I don't worry about them at all. And my wife loves it as you know.

One question since I know you are sitting reserve in Memphis this month. If you lived near Memphis would you have more time with your family?
A Simple Yes or No will do. You will answer your own question.

I never said there weren't better places I just said there isn't any place you can spend more time with your little girl. But, I digress

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 08:40 AM
Grand Forks - We have crime like MEM. Just the other day I saw someone crossing the street and not using the crosswalk.

Climate of Grand Forks, North Dakota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Grand_Forks,_North_Dakota)

You can have the low lying flat land and the weather that goes with it. You only have two or three months you can even get outside.
I can't believe you saw someone outside. :D

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 09:19 AM
I didn't copy your complete deal, but I don't lock our doors much, we have an electric car (Obama and you paid for) and my kids run all over the place and I don't worry about them at all. And my wife loves it as you know.

One question since I know you are sitting reserve in Memphis this month. If you lived near Memphis would you have more time with your family?
A Simple Yes or No will do. You will answer your own question.

First, I don't intentionally bid reserve, I bid VTO when I can. This month I have 3 R days on my line. So kinda the wrong month to try and make your point. Before VTOs became reserve a few months ago for me and the other bottom feeders, I was gone from home only about 10-12 days/month, usually with deadheads and very commutable lines. While that might mean too many days home for you, I understand you like living near Memphis so you can easily scan OT and grab more CHs. To each his own!

Here's a simple question, who blocked more hours last year? Me or you? Who had 445.3 block? That's a lot more block than my 370, just flying my line and a few extra days of flying. Who picked up more trips on days off last year? I think I picked up 2 or 3 total (almost never prior to 4a2b)? Who regularly trades out and backs and a bed at home for 24hr layovers and a hotel bed? For someone who says they spend so much more time at home with momma and the kids, you sure spend a lot of time flying and on the road! :)

Like I said, no need to keep explaining how wonderful it is in domicile for "you", we get it, its just not the same for most of the rest of us!

Oh, and since you're home so much, can we get the broken bathroom shower faucet knobs replaced and the broken sink/vanity repaired at the crashpad? Its been a couple of months since the landlord has been notified and no repairs yet! I guess he must be busy scanning OT. :rolleyes:

Final question, if your wife was not so keen on the Memphis area, would you still live here! Answer this and you answer your own question of me!

BTW - here is the "electric car" my 6 yr old drives, which obviously has nothing to do with you or Barry O (not sure how this got into the discussion):

http://home.offroad.com/~md11fr8dog/photo.jpg

BOYCAPTAIN
03-27-2010, 09:43 AM
md11fr8dog....as we both know r1200rt moved to mem for the $$ and only for the $$...he is trying to justify his move with this family talk:rolleyes:...I blocked 280 last year as a line holder and flew ZERO extra...i was home all the time!!!...his schedules were full every month with carryover and make up...(4a2b? huh what's that?)...he was gone all the time!!!..we had a good laugh yesterday and glad u called him out on it...no electric golf cart down here in paradise we use gas!...sweet yard fr8...just missing some royal palms!!:D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4467697364_e83494fac7_o.jpg

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 10:16 AM
First, I don't intentionally bid reserve, I bid VTO when I can.

Like I said, no need to keep explaining how wonderful it is in domicile for "you", we get it, its just not the same for most of the rest of us!

Final question, if your wife was not so keen on the Memphis area, would you still live here! Answer this and you answer your own question of me!

BTW - here is the "electric car" my 6 yr old drives, which obviously has nothing to do with you or Barry O (not sure how this got into the discussion):[/IMG]

LORD have mercy! While I knew you wouldn't answer the question I asked I never expected the "O" diatribe.

You girls keep putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said the Memphis area was wonderful!! Ever!!!
I'll answer yours.

#1 I'm 50 from the bottom and you are junior to me. Dude even when you get a VTO it is, and will continue to be reserve. It will be your life for the next few years and you know it. Yea Yea you had vacation this month. You'll be here for 15 RA days next month, and every month after that for a long time, just like you were last month.

#2 I'm very lucky with my wife she wants us to be together and she'd be happy anywhere and you know her and know that to be true. She doesn't need a place to be happy. If my job wasn't in Memphis, no I wouldn't live there and don't now.... I would live wherever my job was. Now if I was rich and didn't need a job and could live anywhere... who knows, but I'm not .. yet :cool:

#3 I do trade my schedule around. I can so I do. You can't so you don't. AM out and backs do not let me sleep at home when my wife and kids are there. I hate them and should have bid reserve that month.

#4 Strange that you and BlubberBoyCaptain are so focused on me and how much I fly. I enjoy my job and I may have flown a few more hours than you.. and I loved it, but I'll be a months pay I was home more.
I guess when you pass you can put "I flew less than R1200RT" on your tombstone. I'm sure it will be a comfort to your daughter.

My question was and is. Would you spend more less time with your family if you lived near Memphis? Easy Yes or No.
Don't beat me up or compare you to me. It's all about you and your family. At your seniority, holding what you can would you have more time with your family? It doesn't matter what I do. YOU
You could live out in Shelby county and have a similar set up to what you have now and you know it and have looked.
I'm betting you still won't answer my simple question.

I didn't mention BoyBlunder but you guys are a pair. Same simple Question to you BC.
You guys are so focussed on me... I'm taken you can't have me.
Yeehaa

BOYCAPTAIN
03-27-2010, 10:21 AM
LMAO...calm down r1200rt..u r already on blood pressure meds!!!..just calling u out on your claim that commuters don't put family first over living in mem...i have done both and it's not even close...u can have memphis!!!..enjoy!...

Busboy
03-27-2010, 10:22 AM
...AM out and backs do not let me sleep at home when my wife and kids are there. I hate them and should have bid reserve that month...



Now it makes sense...You live in MEM because you hate your family. Funny how the subconcious works.You win.:eek:

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 10:26 AM
Now it makes sense...You live in MEM because you hate your family. Funny how the subconcious works.You win.:eek:

http://www.goodmart.com/images/prodimages/miller/socketwithpullchain.jpg

His is so easy to pull, isn't it?! :cool:

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 10:39 AM
My question was and is. Would you spend more less time with your family if you lived near Memphis? Easy Yes or No.


My answer was in the previous post if you read carefully, but to help you out and make it easier for you to understand - YES

But, is it worth 2-3 (or whatever number you choose - since you can't sleep at home) extra days at home for me while my wife and daughter have to live in an area that we really have no desire to live? We can live in Memphis and be unhappy, but at least we'll have 2-3 extra days of unhappiness together, right?!:rolleyes: Not worth it for us!

For you, it'$ worth living near Memphi$ in M$. ;)

FedExBusBoy
03-27-2010, 10:46 AM
Commuting blows.......period!

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 10:49 AM
Commuting blows.......period!

Just like getting old, but still better than the alternative!:D

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 10:50 AM
My answer was in the previous post if you read carefully, but to help you out and make it easier for you to understand - YES

But, is it worth 2-3 (or whatever number you choose - since you can't sleep at home) extra days at home for me while my wife and daughter have to live in an area that we really have no desire to live? We can live in Memphis and be unhappy, but at least we'll have 2-3 extra days of unhappiness together, right?!:rolleyes: Not worth it for us!

For you, it'$ worth living near Memphi$ in M$. ;)

OK boys I'm glad everyone is happy. You two both have very young kids. When they turn 18 and move out ask yourself what you'd give to have a few more days with them at 6yrs old or 3. Or any age when you were the most important thing in their life. Actually made me cry to type that. I really do hope it's worth it. I'm not sure this job is worth it at all.
Enjoy the farm and the sea-doos.

FedExBusBoy
03-27-2010, 10:52 AM
Just like getting old, but still better than the alternative!:D

Maybe for you but not for me.........

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 10:53 AM
#3 I do trade my schedule around. I can so I do. You can't so you don't. AM out and backs do not let me sleep at home when my wife and kids are there. I hate them and should have bid reserve that month.


Uh, misspelled "trade my schedule up"!

And I can trade up my schedule, but I choose not to!

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 10:54 AM
Maybe for you but not for me.........

I think getting older IS better than the alternative!:cool:

FedExBusBoy
03-27-2010, 10:57 AM
Yeah.......I get old just thinking about commuting and sure felt like I lost many years when I did it before

Never Again!

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 11:01 AM
Actually made me cry to type that.

Oh no, he pulled the crying card! [Tom Hanks voice]There's no crying on APC[/Tom Hanks voice]. You win!

Here let me help ;)

http://www.sustainabilityninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kleercut-kleenex.jpg

btw - sorry for the Greenpeace image, its the largest tissue I could find! :D

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 11:20 AM
Yeah.......I get old just thinking about commuting and sure felt like I lost many years when I did it before

Never Again!

Never said commuting didn't suck, its just when the costs are weighed against the benefits, its not worth living in domicile for US! I live out of domicile for my family. You, RT and others live in domicile for your own reasons! My only gripe is the proselytizing of the virtues of living in domicile by those that live in domicile! It's almost like they are still trying to convince themselves! We're all smart enough to make our decisions based on what's important to our own families and our own lives.

I looked at living in domicile and we could not find or make the set up (land, community, proximity to family, schools, etc) that would work for us! I've always bid for lifestyle and not BLG, so I have no qualms about my number of days at home or my number of days at work. What works for us, may not work for you or RT. If the costs out weigh the bennies, FOR US, we would reconsider, but right now, they don't!

And in 9 yrs, 7 months and 24 days when I have my 25 yrs (or 11yr 1 month 9 days to 60) I won't be moving. I'll already be in my retirement home! ;)

BOYCAPTAIN
03-27-2010, 11:36 AM
commuting all depends on seniority....

BOYCAPTAIN
03-27-2010, 11:57 AM
Memphis was featured on the show "Gangland" on the History channel last night. Didn't paint south side in a very good light.. :eek:

youtube has the vid...search "memphis LMG" parts 1-5...

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 01:22 PM
Uh, misspelled "trade my schedule up"!

And I can trade up my schedule, but I choose not to!

Come on and get off my back. I said you had a good deal and never got on you. I'm not the focus. Just said no place is perfect and I said Memphis is far from great or even good. But with my kids 5 & 7 I want all the time I can get. Gosh you are so into my schedule it's scary. My flt summary says 162 hours in the past six months (I know a killer pace) Of course the Rtrip I'm on now will add about 30 hours to that.
In the past 4 months you've sat around MEM 26days and that's on first fly. Now I'm counting standby periods as days in MEM if you didn't fly. If you were not on first fly that 26 might be 40 days you could have had with your family living close to domicile. That's almost 25% of your your life in 4 months sitting in MEM and includes vacation(almost a month off) and FF. Next month you have another 15 RA days. Stay off FF and see what happens. We can play a lot of golf and get paid to do it.
Summer is almost here, keep and eye on my schedule the next few months and come down and visit when you are in town. My girls would love to see you.

Now if I could just find an Irish Pub in Manhattan?

MD11Fr8Dog
03-27-2010, 01:52 PM
Come on and get off my back. I said you had a good deal and never got on you. I'm not the focus. Just said no place is perfect and I said Memphis is far from great or even good. But with my kids 5 & 7 I want all the time I can get. Gosh you are so into my schedule it's scary. My flt summary says 162 hours in the past six months (I know a killer pace) Of course the Rtrip I'm on now will add about 30 hours to that.
In the past 4 months you've sat around MEM 26days and that's on first fly. Now I'm counting standby periods as days in MEM if you didn't fly. If you were not on first fly that 26 might be 40 days you could have had with your family living close to domicile. That's almost 25% of your your life in 4 months sitting in MEM and includes vacation(almost a month off) and FF. Next month you have another 15 RA days. Stay off FF and see what happens. We can play a lot of golf and get paid to do it.
Summer is almost here, keep and eye on my schedule the next few months and come down and visit when you are in town. My girls would love to see you.

Now if I could just find an Irish Pub in Manhattan?

Those are days at work, whether in MEM or not! I might have even snuck home a 1N7 or two!

You are correct, I would have been home if my home were here in MEM, but we chose for it NOT to be in MEM! So quit trying to sell it to me All OTHER things considered, FOR US, its best where we live and I commute. You choose to lie in domicile and bid reserve for days off while on the clock and pick up extra on your "days off". I just choose to have my days off be my days off and my days at work my days at work. I bet you I was home within 10-15 days of the number of days you were home calendar yr '09 (go ahead and compare, I already did :D)! Only away from home about 1 day per month more than you is worth the sacrifice for our lifestyle! ;)

caveat - I rarely pick up trips on my days off, I max out my VAC by bidding reserve and extending, and I had a few trips on my VTOs with deadheads that allowed me to delay my commute or spend time at the beach with my girls (Jun '09).

Of course your W2 is larger than mine!:p

jetmech1
03-27-2010, 02:00 PM
I lived in MS for thirty years before moving to Indy. I traveled to Memphis everyday for work, for shopping, entertainment, Beale St, river area. I've never had a problem. My motto is don't go where you don't belong, and be aware of your surroundings. There are worse places.

Busboy
03-27-2010, 03:08 PM
R1200RT,

If living in domicile is "picking family"? And, I think everyone agrees that seniority is important, no matter where you live...Then, why don't you bid HKG and move your family there? You could be senior, choose your schedule AND spend more time with them.:confused:

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 07:09 PM
R1200RT,

If living in domicile is "picking family"? And, I think everyone agrees that seniority is important, no matter where you live...Then, why don't you bid HKG and move your family there? You could be senior, choose your schedule AND spend more time with them.:confused:

Well, seniority really matters to commuters. If I was number one I'd still bid reserve and do exactly what I'm doing. If I'm number last I really don't care. I'm not the one that mentioned seniority. I don't really need a schedule I want to sit in base and not work.
Even though Fr8dog thinks a reserve day is work I don't. If I'm home with my family and get paid (bonus)... guess what I'm still home with my family. It's a day of work if you are sitting in Memphis and your family is in another town.
If I went to HKG it would be a different type of hardship on my wife and I'd still sit reserve at home. I don't want any schedule good or bad.
If a Europe base opens maybe if my kids are still very young.

Sorry you are confused.

RedeyeAV8r
03-27-2010, 07:15 PM
Well, seniority really matters to commuters. If I was number one I'd still bid reserve and do exactly what I'm doing. If I'm number last I really don't care. I'm not the one that mentioned seniority. I don't really need a schedule I want to sit in base and not work.
Even though Fr8dog thinks a reserve day is work I don't. If I'm home with my family and get paid (bonus)... guess what I'm still home with my family. It's a day of work if you are sitting in Memphis and your family is in another town.
If I went to HKG it would be a different type of hardship on my wife and I'd still sit reserve at home. I don't want any schedule good or bad.
If a Europe base opens maybe if my kids are still very young.

Sorry you are confused.

All this is true. Living in domicile is certainly less stressful.

But FDX has historically staffed short. When I lived in MEM Crew skeds used the reserves. There was no sitting at home when "on Call" you were used.

The last 2-3 years has been highly unusual. Give it another year or 2 and I doubt the reserves will be sitting around not flying on a R day.

Just one person's prediction. Enjoy it while you can.

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 07:33 PM
Never said commuting didn't suck, its just when the costs are weighed against the benefits, its not worth living in domicile for US! I live out of domicile for my family. You, RT and others live in domicile for your own reasons! My only gripe is the proselytizing of the virtues of living in domicile by those that live in domicile! It's almost like they are still trying to convince themselves! We're all smart enough to make our decisions based on what's important to our own families and our own lives.

I looked at living in domicile and we could not find or make the set up (land, community, proximity to family, schools, etc) that would work for us! I've always bid for lifestyle and not BLG, so I have no qualms about my number of days at home or my number of days at work. What works for us, may not work for you or RT. If the costs out weigh the bennies, FOR US, we would reconsider, but right now, they don't!

And in 9 yrs, 7 months and 24 days when I have my 25 yrs (or 11yr 1 month 9 days to 60) I won't be moving. I'll already be in my retirement home! ;)

Look at the big brain on Fr8dog. Man you know I'm not trying to convert you. I just said ever place has it's draw backs. And the commuters went to general quarters.
You said/challenged me to "show you how Memphis is better" than where you live. So, I said you'd have more time with your family. Then you get personal trying to bash me about the way I work my schedule and compared you to me and how you do better, or implied as much.

Way off base dude, I said you lived like a rock star and you bash me for manipulating my schedule... what's wrong with you? (don't answer that I can't read another 500 word essay):rolleyes:

R1200RT
03-27-2010, 07:35 PM
All this is true. Living in domicile is certainly less stressful.

But FDX has historically staffed short. When I lived in MEM Crew skeds used the reserves. There was no sitting at home when "on Call" you were used.

The last 2-3 years has been highly unusual. Give it another year or 2 and I doubt the reserves will be sitting around not flying on a R day.

Just one person's prediction. Enjoy it while you can.

I think you are exactly right! I'm just getting while I can brother.

MD11Fr8Dog
03-28-2010, 05:49 AM
I think you are exactly right! I'm just getting while I can brother.

While you're "getting", can we get the crashpad bathroom repaired? Its been a couple months, I know you've had plenty of time off, you've said so! :rolleyes:

BOYCAPTAIN
03-28-2010, 06:12 AM
he is out of the country on a 5 day trip from reserve...u know "reserve"..when he stays home all the time because they never use him..LMAO!

MD11Fr8Dog
03-28-2010, 06:28 AM
he is out of the country on a 5 day trip from reserve...u know "reserve"..when he stays home all the time because they never use him..LMAO!

Well, looking at today's leveling, last day of the month, he is the only guy with more leveling than me, and mine consists of 12 R-days knocked out by VAC and 2 airport stby periods! ;)

R1200RT
03-28-2010, 07:50 AM
Well, looking at today's leveling, last day of the month, he is the only guy with more leveling than me, and mine consists of 12 R-days knocked out by VAC and 2 airport stby periods! ;)

I had a vacation too and one other trip assigned on reserve (it was a line check or this would be my first and only trip this month on reserve) and most of it is carryover which will help me sit around next month.
I'm going to get JD to pick up the stuff for the bathroom. He's a buddy and will do when he is in town sitting around doing nothing.
BC I'm on a trip you bus guys can't even dream about. This is the kind of trip I got into flying for... I love it. As a commuter pilot you wouldn't understand. Enjoy SHV and IND......Try to control the envy.

FDXLAG
03-28-2010, 08:08 AM
I had a vacation too and one other trip assigned on reserve (it was a line check or this would be my first and only trip this month on reserve) and most of it is carryover which will help me sit around next month.
I'm going to get JD to pick up the stuff for the bathroom. He's a buddy and will do when he is in town sitting around doing nothing.
BC I'm on a trip you bus guys can't even dream about. This is the kind of trip I got into flying for... I love it. As a commuter pilot you wouldn't understand. Enjoy SHV and IND......Try to control the envy.


Not to get invoved in a cat fight but did you get into the flying for the layovers? Or are the ILS's in butfudgestan that much better than the ILS in SHV? ;)

R1200RT
03-28-2010, 09:23 AM
Not to get invoved in a cat fight but did you get into the flying for the layovers? Or are the ILS's in butfudgestan that much better than the ILS in SHV? ;)

To be honest I could care less about the flying or the aircraft. For me it's about time at home and being able see the world when I have to work. I vacation for a living. To junior right now to do it like I use to, but I do love the travel when I get a good trip. STN tomorrow then CDG with a DH home.
No cat fight we are all friends away from FDX and APC.

FXDX
03-28-2010, 10:16 AM
You guys ought to try this thing called a phone.:rolleyes:

MD11Fr8Dog
03-28-2010, 10:19 AM
You guys ought to try this thing called a phone.:rolleyes:

He won't take my calls - he's afraid I'll ask when the crashpad bathroom is going to get repaired! ;)

FDX28
03-28-2010, 10:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk5-r4iIT6s

Deuce130
03-28-2010, 11:02 AM
To re-focus the thread a little...I lived in Destin, FL for 8 years, moved to Memphis two years after I got hired. I loved the time with my family, not commuting, and it sure made the job easier. But, it wasn't enough. That said, we spent 22 months there and I'm now back in Destin, FL. I truly wish it would've worked out for the whole family, it just didn't, myself included. In the interest of full disclosure, I went on long-term mil leave as soon as I got back here, so I haven't had to deal with the commute again. And I'm not eager to do it, either.

Canyonman
03-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Never said commuting didn't suck, its just when the costs are weighed against the benefits, its not worth living in domicile for US! I live out of domicile for my family. You, RT and others live in domicile for your own reasons! My only gripe is the proselytizing of the virtues of living in domicile by those that live in domicile! It's almost like they are still trying to convince themselves! We're all smart enough to make our decisions based on what's important to our own families and our own lives. ;)

Wow, another thread gone to flame bait. MD11Fr8Dog, give me a break. You really think that the MEM domicile pilots are trying to convert ya all commuters:rolleyes:. I believe it's the other way. Show me a post that a domiciled pilot has started that claims MEM is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Every so often someone starts a post slamming MEM or someone is thinking about moving here and the slug fest begins. Hey, we get it and we know the pro and cons. Heck I almost become a commuter myself. So what if few decide to defend their choice for living here, to say that we are all trying to convince ourselves is ridiculous. I think we just get tired of hearing the SOS. I'm sure the guy who started this post is having a good chuckle. BTW. Never see our UPS bros having the same argument. SDF must be utopia:eek:

Busboy
03-28-2010, 12:25 PM
Wow, another thread gone to flame bait. MD11Fr8Dog, give me a break. You really think that the MEM domicile pilots are trying to convert ya all commuters:rolleyes:. I believe it's the other way. Show me a post that a domiciled pilot has started that claims MEM is the greatest thing since sliced bread...

Like that could ever happen...:D

BOYCAPTAIN
03-28-2010, 12:52 PM
canyonman i think u have it wrong!!!....commuters don't want more pilots clogging up the jumpseats...memphis is wonderful..especially collierville...they have a great mall and u can join lifetime fitness!!!..big fun!!!:D

R1200RT
03-28-2010, 12:59 PM
Fr8Dog the thing will be fixed when you come back next month to sit reserve for 15 days.

Fr8Dog uses words I can't understand on the phone and he is always playing Xbox and doesn't pay attention.

What I really think sucks about the people that commute is that is always a family decision, but I don't know about your wives but there is no way my wife or Fr8Dog's or BoyCaptain's wives would choose to spend extra time away from their small kids. It's fine that we do it. When I told fr8Dog he was giving up potentially 40 days in the past 4 months (26 for sure) he said it was worth it. If I told my wife she would have to give up 10 days a month away from our kids she'd flip. Lord we'd be living in Antarctica for that kind of absenteeism if it was her time. I'm 100% that's true with me and BC and pretty sure with fr8dog's wife too. Not sure how many wives with young kids would choose a place over time with their small kids.

BOYCAPTAIN
03-28-2010, 01:02 PM
depends on if it is memphis, tn or not!

Canyonman
03-28-2010, 02:48 PM
Like that could ever happen...:D


Good one!! Touché :)

FANS cripple
03-28-2010, 03:00 PM
depends on if it is memphis, tn or not!

Good points! (http://blog.skimkim.com/wp-content/upload/massengill.jpg)

Canyonman
03-28-2010, 03:24 PM
canyonman i think u have it wrong!!!....commuters don't want more pilots clogging up the jumpseats...memphis is wonderful..especially collierville...they have a great mall and u can join lifetime fitness!!!..big fun!!!:D

BoyCaptain, spot on!!!! I bow down to the commuters. Mempho is the utopia we MEM domocites claim it is, thank god all 4600 fdx pilots don't believe us. If they did I would not have been able to make left seat wide body under the 10 year mark:D. Believe me, I'm working on my mempho exit strategy :).

BOYCAPTAIN
03-28-2010, 04:18 PM
Good points! (http://blog.skimkim.com/wp-content/upload/massengill.jpg)

GENIUS!!!:rolleyes:

KnightFlyer
03-28-2010, 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by FANS cripple
Good points!


GENIUS!!!:rolleyes:

Good one!! Touché

Don't you mean, Douché?:rolleyes:

MD11Fr8Dog
03-28-2010, 07:40 PM
Fr8Dog uses words I can't understand on the phone and he is always playing Xbox and doesn't pay attention.

You don't understand them in writing either! ;)

And truth be told, I don't think you've actually ever seen the XBOX turned on at the crashpad, if so, its been awhile - has about 15 total hours on it the past year, mostly to watch Netflix or stream movies from my laptop!:rolleyes: Of course, a half hour of Grand Theft Auto IV is a good way to get prepped for driving in Memphis!

What I really think sucks about the people that commute is that is always a family decision, but I don't know about your wives but there is no way my wife or Fr8Dog's or BoyCaptain's wives would choose to spend extra time away from their small kids. It's fine that we do it. When I told fr8Dog he was giving up potentially 40 days in the past 4 months (26 for sure) he said it was worth it. If I told my wife she would have to give up 10 days a month away from our kids she'd flip. Lord we'd be living in Antarctica for that kind of absenteeism if it was her time. I'm 100% that's true with me and BC and pretty sure with fr8dog's wife too. Not sure how many wives with young kids would choose a place over time with their small kids.

Are you implying that I am away from home an ADDITIONAL 10days/mon on top of my regular schedule? At worst my VTO lines filled with R-days cost me 3-5 days away (over previous 4a2b bid periods) the during those 4 months. When I wasn't getting R days on VTOs, I was averaging about 10+or- days away from home (down from 12-13 prior to 4a2b).

The past 4 months included a VAC month, and I was on the schedule a total of 57 days in those 4 months, of which, I snuck home a couple days on 1N7s and took advantage of a couple of deadheads to shave some time. Come on now! Are you saying you were only away from home for 17 days in those 4 months (57-40=17)?
So, be a little realistic with your numbers! Look at the past yr, I did. I was away from home for work 10-15 more days than you, for the whole 12 months, Jan1 '09 to Dec31, '09! What I really said was only being away about 1 day/mon more than you was worth living in the place we have chosen to live. Just to remind you, living IN domicile is a "family decision" too!

And for the record, both I (3 R days) and my wife (horse show - her horse qual'd for regionals in dressage 3rd level, btw) were out of town from Thur night to Sunday evening. While we both missed our daughter very much, she survived! We left plenty of food and water in her bowls! ;)

MD11Fr8Dog
03-28-2010, 07:46 PM
Wow, another thread gone to flame bait. MD11Fr8Dog, give me a break. You really think that the MEM domicile pilots are trying to convert ya all commuters:rolleyes:.

Nope, what I really think was the very next sentence after the BOLD. :D Did you read that far?:rolleyes:

My only gripe is the proselytizing of the virtues of living in domicile by those that live in domicile! It's almost like they are still trying to convince themselves!

Canyonman
03-29-2010, 05:01 AM
Nope, what I really think was the very next sentence after the BOLD. :D Did you read that far?:rolleyes:

Uh yes, it was in my post. Hey Bro, we know defending mempho is like polishing a turd, but you know us alpha dog pilots it's our turd. Obviously you and R1200RT are both right and have way to much time off to be looking at each others calendars :D. BTW-congrats to your wife and horse on the dressage placement.

Fly Safe.

CM

R1200RT
04-03-2010, 06:35 PM
md11fr8dog....as we both know r1200rt moved to mem for the $$ and only for the $$...he is trying to justify his move with this family talk:rolleyes:...I blocked 280 last year as a line holder and flew ZERO extra...i was home all the time!!!...his schedules were full every month with carryover and make up...(4a2b? huh what's that?)...he was gone all the time!!!..we had a good laugh yesterday and glad u called him out on it...no electric golf cart down here in paradise we use gas!...sweet yard fr8...just missing some royal palms!!:D


Looks like you and fr8dog can't say that anymore.... both flying extra in April..... welcome to da'club

Busdrivr
04-03-2010, 06:48 PM
Question. Can anyone tell me the point of this thread?

FedExBusBoy
04-03-2010, 06:54 PM
Looks like you and fr8dog can't say that anymore.... both flying extra in April..... welcome to da'club

Busted! LOL

MD11Fr8Dog
04-03-2010, 07:00 PM
Busted! LOL

Yep, busted taking a chance by dropping 6 R-days to pick a 4 day trip (dbl DH) that includes a front end DH and 29hr layover at home! Call me guilty! I'll use RT's excuse, I did it to be home more! :) (gone away from home for 40hrs vs 6 days in MEM on reserve - yep very guilty! ;)

Probably drop a few more days after I get a few landings since I go non-current on 4/17

Oh yea, and I don't have to spend anytime in Memphis - to get back on topic! :D

JohnnyViper
04-04-2010, 02:49 AM
Question. Can anyone tell me the point of this thread?


I thought it was so that us commuters can bash Memphis and feel good about the decision to be gone from home and family so many more days per month.

FedExBusBoy
04-04-2010, 04:02 AM
............

R1200RT
04-04-2010, 04:31 AM
Yep, busted taking a chance by dropping 6 R-days to pick a 4 day trip (dbl DH) that includes a front end DH and 29hr layover at home! Call me guilty! I'll use RT's excuse, I did it to be home more! :) (gone away from home for 40hrs vs 6 days in MEM on reserve - yep very guilty!

Probably drop a few more days after I get a few landings since I go non-current on 4/17

Oh yea, and I don't have to spend anytime in Memphis - to get back on topic! :D

Making more money to be home more! You learn well/quickly Grasshopper. 8 days with a blue line and 9 Rdays. now you are working 17 days instead of 15... hahahaha

There is no point to this thread, never was. It does show we can all justify anything if we want to. I've never had a problem with guys using their contractual benefits at any time. But, I have caught major crap from both of these guys for doing exactly what they have done in April. Not just on APC.... hey but it's what they want now... so it's OK

Like right now I think I really need a new motorcycle..... :eek:

And yea Happy Easter...

MD11Fr8Dog
04-05-2010, 06:43 AM
Making more money to be home more! You learn well/quickly Grasshopper. 8 days with a blue line and 9 Rdays. now you are working 17 days instead of 15... hahahaha

There is no point to this thread, never was. It does show we can all justify anything if we want to. I've never had a problem with guys using their contractual benefits at any time. But, I have caught major crap from both of these guys for doing exactly what they have done in April. Not just on APC.... hey but it's what they want now... so it's OK

Like right now I think I really need a new motorcycle..... :eek:

And yea Happy Easter...

Look again Ladybug! Its 6.5 days of blue line (97 TAFB + 57 TAFB with 1 day of no blue line between the trips - I'll actually be home 2 days between trips due to backend DH)! And uh, its a 19 day R line month - not 15 and Ive dropped 6 R days already, and more than 2 of the 6.5 blue days of "work" are at home (nothing like being away from home less than 40 hrs on a 97 hr TAFB trip! Kinda like when you trade your out and backs and sleeping in your own bed for those 24 hr layovers outside of MEM, right? :confused:) BTW- once I get a couple more landings and my currency is assured (darn pesky VIPS notices) I will drop some more R days! :cool:

Nice try at spin doctoring though!

Laughing_Jakal
04-05-2010, 02:49 PM
Ok....I am having a hard time reading these self congratulatory slug fests.... I can just see the negotiating committee having these handed back to them across the table when talking work rules.

It's just slightly less crass than comparing the price per cc of the new implants you just bought your wife. Just cut to the chase and tell us :eek:whose schwanz is bigger once and for all so we don't have to read this stuff again.

v1 uh-oh
04-05-2010, 03:01 PM
Better yet, use the private message function. Nobody cares about your catfight, except you ladies.

MaydayMark
04-10-2010, 05:53 PM
My Mother's Murder:

The 2005 stabbing death of single mother Jennifer Jackson in her East Memphis home is investigated.

The Walrus
04-10-2010, 06:16 PM
The girl murdered was the best friend of an A300 Capt's (CW) girlfriend. A buddy of mine was on a siba trip with him when this happened.

R1200RT
04-11-2010, 05:22 PM
My Mother's Murder:

The 2005 stabbing death of single mother Jennifer Jackson in her East Memphis home is investigated.

And just where do you live?

golfandfly
04-11-2010, 06:59 PM
Jennifer Jackson was murdered by her daughter and convicted. She is in prison now. Of course, the daughter says she didn't do it. It was a very high profile case in Memphis. This crime isn't "usual" at all. They were upper middle class and living in a good neighborhood. This is an odd crime that happens occasionally in any part of the United States. 60 minutes type stuff.

I wouldn't put this in the Memphis is terrible thread. No more than the FDX pilot that didn't get convicted of murder. This crime wouldn't scare me away from Memphis, however, it might scare me away from my kids....

There's much better random violence to back up your case. It happens daily in Memphis, but it rarely happens in the nicer parts of Shelby County. I've lived here for years and don't mind it at all. Unfortunately, you have to know where you can and can't go, which is a statement in itself. I don't get gas (unless an emergency) near the airport at night, etc.... If you avoid certain areas, it can be a very decent place to live.

Xmarc
04-12-2010, 05:11 AM
Jennifer Jackson was murdered by her daughter and convicted. She is in prison now. Of course, the daughter says she didn't do it. It was a very high profile case in Memphis. This crime isn't "usual" at all. They were upper middle class and living in a good neighborhood. This is an odd crime that happens occasionally in any part of the United States. 60 minutes type stuff.

I wouldn't put this in the Memphis is terrible thread. No more than the FDX pilot that didn't get convicted of murder. This crime wouldn't scare me away from Memphis, however, it might scare me away from my kids....

There's much better random violence to back up your case. It happens daily in Memphis, but it rarely happens in the nicer parts of Shelby County. I've lived here for years and don't mind it at all. Unfortunately, you have to know where you can and can't go, which is a statement in itself. I don't get gas (unless an emergency) near the airport at night, etc.... If you avoid certain areas, it can be a very decent place to live.

As in any large city.

MaydayMark
04-12-2010, 06:30 AM
As in any large city.


I'm not sure that statement accurately reflects reality. Memphis has the SECOND highest violent crime rate in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Is that "as in any large city"?

Xmarc
04-12-2010, 07:25 AM
I'm not sure that statement accurately reflects reality. Memphis has the SECOND highest violent crime rate in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Is that "as in any large city"?

Just referring to knowing which areas to avoid.

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 07:32 AM
Mark,
Not sure why you harp on this. You chose to live somewhere else. Why are you so infatuated by the crime rate in a city that you do not live in? Bid Hong Kong if you never want to see Memphis again.

Where do you live, I am sure I could find something wrong with it too. Please come up with some new material.

I've lived in many parts of the US, and I actually like Memphis.

MaydayMark
04-12-2010, 07:42 AM
Mark,
Not sure why you harp on this. You chose to live somewhere else. Why are you so infatuated by the crime rate in a city that you do not live in?

Where do you live, I am sure I could find something wrong with it too.


Dude,

It's not MaydayMark's opinion that Memphis is a huge sh*thole, it's Fortune Magazine, USA Today, US News and World Report's opinion ... keep your head buried in the sand if you like, we need locals in order to make the flight schedule work. I'm REALLY glad it's you and your family instead of me and mine :D

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 07:54 AM
Where do you live Mark?

So you don't like Memphis? Big f'ing deal. Live somewhere else. End of story. Work somewhere else.

My family likes it here. There is plenty to do if you leave the crashpad. If my view of Memphis was the Holiday Inn Select, maybe I'd be afraid too. I don't like commuting. I've done it before. If fedex was based in Pittsburgh, I'd probably move there too. It provides me the opportunity to spend more time with my family. We have good friends and stay active.

I am not selling you on Memphis. I don't care where you live. I hope you like it there. But my guess is that with your negative view on life, you'd be miserable wherever you live. The family is probably happy that you commute, it is less time they have to spend with a total downer...

FLMD11CAPT
04-12-2010, 10:47 AM
Dude,

It's not MaydayMark's opinion that Memphis is a huge sh*thole, it's Fortune Magazine, USA Today, US News and World Report's opinion ...

Mark's point of it not being his opinion, but many, many national publications opinion is valid, and remains unanswered.:cool:

Cargo Man
04-12-2010, 11:03 AM
It’s apparent that some of you folks have never eaten good ribs or toured Graceland.

MaydayMark
04-12-2010, 11:41 AM
It’s apparent that some of you folks have never eaten good ribs or toured Graceland.



But my kid got a really good public education (how many of you Memphis bubbas are paying for private school) ... and my wife isn't afraid to drive alone (unarmed) at night. :eek:

Good Beer
04-12-2010, 11:53 AM
Mark's point of it not being his opinion, but many, many national publications opinion is valid, and remains unanswered.:cool:

So if the media says it it must be true....well that explains the political views of 90% of our crew force (24/7 FOX news in AOC will do that I guess).;)

But seriously, part of the reason for the high crime rankings is because of the reporting metrics used by the M.P.D. If we used the same reporting criteria as NYC, Memphis's crime ranking nationwide would be in the teens.

FDXLAG
04-12-2010, 12:21 PM
So if the media says it it must be true....well that explains the political views of 90% of our crew force (24/7 FOX news in AOC will do that I guess).;)

But seriously, part of the reason for the high crime rankings is because of the reporting metrics used by the M.P.D. If we used the same reporting criteria as NYC, Memphis's crime ranking nationwide would be in the teens.

Yeah 90% of the crew force must be wrong, luckily we have you to straighten us out. It is interesting that you think that Fox News has influenced the crew force. Karl Marks would say that fox news is a tool of the capitlalists to enslave the workers. Adam smith would say Fox news is filling a demand. No need to wonder which camp you fall into.

But seriously you think Memphis just has a bad Rap? Is there a source for your metrics claim, please don't use any left wing media sources as we know they cant be trusted.

HazCan
04-12-2010, 01:08 PM
You guys should just make out and get it over with. Swordfight!!!

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 01:22 PM
Shlt, if you don't like Memphis, don't live there!

Check crime stats in Germantown and Collierville and see how they compare with any city in the US. Schools are good there. Homes are affordable and taxes are reasonable. Many have the extra cash to send their kids to private schools if they choose.

Inner city Memphis is bad. Poverty and crime. I'd be willing to bet that very few Fedex pilots live there. My wife isn't afraid to live here.

I don't get the obsession of people that don't live here that constantly berate a place where they don't live.

So tell me you negative whiners, where do you live?

FLMD11CAPT
04-12-2010, 01:40 PM
Shlt, if you don't like Memphis, don't live there!

Check crime stats in Germantown and Collierville and see how they compare with any city in the US. Schools are good there. Homes are affordable and taxes are reasonable. Many have the extra cash to send their kids to private schools if they choose.

Inner city Memphis is bad. Poverty and crime. I'd be willing to bet that very few Fedex pilots live there. My wife isn't afraid to live here.

I don't get the obsession of people that don't live here that constantly berate a place where they don't live.

So tell me you negative whiners, where do you live?

Well, I'm not a negative whiner, and I don't label folks on a forum either.....but since you asked, Jacksonville, and , yes, we have our issues there as well. just not in the top 5, 10, 50 or 100 cities in the Country.:cool::rolleyes:

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 01:49 PM
Lots of violent crime in Jacksonville too. Well above the national average.. The landing can be fun though...

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Also, I don't mind labeling people either.. If the shoe fits...

This thread reminds me of a bad SNL skit....

Daniel Larusso
04-12-2010, 02:01 PM
Who's Karl Marks? Is he one of the new safety VP's?

FLMD11CAPT
04-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Also, I don't mind labeling people either.. If the shoe fits...

This thread reminds me of a bad SNL skit....


The mirror works really well if you have the urge again........:rolleyes:

AFW_MD11
04-12-2010, 02:08 PM
Who's Karl Marks? Is he one of the new safety VP's?

Karl Marks is a tool? what?

Mayday Mark(s).....Karl Marks......Karl Marx.....what's the diff?? ;)

I heard a rumor that FedEx is opening AFW as a 757 pilot domicile.....that should make Mayday Mark(s) happy.....I thought he lived in the DFW metroplex? Cowboy fan and all....(btw....no crime there, in Dallas :eek:)

FDXLAG
04-12-2010, 02:19 PM
Who's Karl Marks? Is he one of the new safety VP's?

The one with the cigar.

FDXLAG
04-12-2010, 02:21 PM
Karl Marks is a tool? what?

Mayday Mark(s).....Karl Marks......Karl Marx.....what's the diff?? ;)

I heard a rumor that FedEx is opening AFW as a 757 pilot domicile.....that should make Mayday Mark(s) happy.....I thought he lived in the DFW metroplex? Cowboy fan and all....(btw....no crime there, in Dallas :eek:)


I dont know but there are bunch more 72 AFW lines in May. We rebuilding Fort Worth again are something?

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 02:37 PM
The mirror??? Nah, not unless it's one of those carnival mirrors. They make things look much larger...

golfandfly
04-12-2010, 02:39 PM
The DFW area is very good except it is home to the Cowboys...

Daniel Larusso
04-12-2010, 02:53 PM
The one with the cigar.

Gotcha, I found him.

http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/alpacinoscarface.jpg

Busboy
04-12-2010, 04:20 PM
Who's Karl Marks? Is he one of the new safety VP's?

Karl was the Greenskeeper at Bushwood Country Club, I think.

MD11Fr8Dog
04-12-2010, 04:28 PM
Karl was the Greenskeeper at Bushwood Country Club, I think.

Nope, that was Carl and he's got that going for him, which is nice!

Good Beer
04-12-2010, 04:58 PM
Yeah 90% of the crew force must be wrong, luckily we have you to straighten us out. It is interesting that you think that Fox News has influenced the crew force.Karl Marks would say that fox news is a tool of the capitlalists to enslave the workers. Adam smith would say Fox news is filling a demand. No need to wonder which camp you fall into.

But seriously you think Memphis just has a bad Rap? Is there a source for your metrics claim, please don't use any left wing media sources as we know they cant be trusted.

Not trying to set anyone right. I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs (without being shouted down or intimidated by people who bring weapons to political events).

Using the 90% example to validate your own particular view falls a bit short. Our crew force isn't exactly a very broad cross section of society as a whole (95% WM + 80% military).

FOX News influencing the crew Force? Not Really. preach to the choir - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/preach+to+the+choir)

Oh goody, quotes from famous dead people! Here's one of my favorites

Every time I criticize what I consider to be excesses or faults in the news business, I am accused of repression, and the leaders of various media professional groups wave the First Amendment as they denounce me. That happens to be my amendment, too. It guarantees my free speech as it does their freedom of the press… There is room for all of us – and for our divergent views – under the First Amendment.
Spiro Agnew

And last but not least


Memphis a victim of crime reports The Commercial Appeal (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jun/29/memphis-victim-of-crime-reports/)

Officials say Memphis crime rate distorted Knoxville News Sentinel (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jul/06/officials-memphis-crime-rate-distorted/)

O yeah, its spelled Capitalist ;)

Good Beer
04-12-2010, 05:08 PM
And yeah I know, Agnew wasn't exactly the straightest arrow, but his words still ring true.

Stratosphere
04-12-2010, 05:35 PM
It’s apparent that some of you folks have never eaten good ribs or toured Graceland.


I dunno have you ever been to Graceland at night? lol. Seriously though. I have lived all over this country and never had a problem til one night last yr I got home around 9pm in Horn Lake, MS just outside MEM and a car with 4 "bruthas" rolled up on me asking for directions. ..Now if they had pulled up on me in say Memphis no I would have never went up to their car. But in front of my house I let my guard down and went to see if I could help and they pulled a gun on me and robbed me. Let me tell you I learned a lesson that day and thankfully cheaply as well. But what happened to me could happen to anyone anywhere at anytime. Be aware of your surroundings..I can understand guys who live here and don't want to commute..Housing is reasonable here and there are nice neighborhoods in the burbs..Although Horn Lake has gone down hill much like Hickory Hill did. So I guess I will move a little farther away from the city and hope for the best.

trigg41
04-13-2010, 03:18 AM
Another body found in anchorage this weekend....but who's keeping score?

Jetjok
04-13-2010, 03:39 AM
Another body found in anchorage this weekend....but who's keeping score?

The good news of course is that at least it wasn't eaten by a bear, or worse, some of the locals, as road kill.

JJ

FDXLAG
04-13-2010, 09:05 AM
Not trying to set anyone right. I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs (without being shouted down or intimidated by people who bring weapons to political events).

Using the 90% example to validate your own particular view falls a bit short. Our crew force isn't exactly a very broad cross section of society as a whole (95% WM + 80% military).

FOX News influencing the crew Force? Not Really. preach to the choir - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/preach+to+the+choir)

Oh goody, quotes from famous dead people! Here's one of my favorites

Every time I criticize what I consider to be excesses or faults in the news business, I am accused of repression, and the leaders of various media professional groups wave the First Amendment as they denounce me. That happens to be my amendment, too. It guarantees my free speech as it does their freedom of the press… There is room for all of us – and for our divergent views – under the First Amendment.
Spiro Agnew

And last but not least


Memphis a victim of crime reports The Commercial Appeal (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jun/29/memphis-victim-of-crime-reports/)

Officials say Memphis crime rate distorted Knoxville News Sentinel (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jul/06/officials-memphis-crime-rate-distorted/)

O yeah, its spelled Capitalist ;)

Sweetpea you used the 90% number not me. Reread your original post. If you dont like Foxnews reach up and turn the channel. Yeah that is it, they pull in more viewers than CNN, HLN, CNBC, and MSNBC combined because they are preaching to the choir. What does that tell you about the size of Kieth Olbermann's "choir".

Good quotes the 2nd one uses the 1st one as the primary source. The primary source uses biased unnamed "officials". Funny how CQ and Forbes use the same numbers and come up 14th and 2nd respectively. Must be all those right wingers at forbes who have it in for Memphis. I could care less about memphis or the crime rate. I was defending the democratic channel selection process in AOC. Personally I would prefer NCIS or Frasier reruns.

MaydayMark
01-15-2011, 01:05 PM
MCS Board working to deal with pregnancies at Frayser High - WMC-TV 5 - Memphis, TN (http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13833438)

MD11Fr8Dog
01-15-2011, 03:08 PM
MCS Board working to deal with pregnancies at Frayser High - WMC-TV 5 - Memphis, TN (http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13833438)

It appears that each projected birth date coincids with an R day of yours 9 months earlier!! Hmmmm.....



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