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cantwin
05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
We closed today on the Hawker I've been flying for 4 years. I think the main reason he got rid of it is because of the maintenance of Hawkers is ridiculous... Always something! Has anybody actually pulled through with convincing their principal to now buy something newer, slower, less expensive to operate? I'd like some insight... great guy to work for and he needs a plane!!! :)

Thanks in advance.


BoilerUP
05-14-2012, 05:49 PM
What kind of Hawker was it...sounds like your plane was old?

Maybe a Beechjet, Premier or CJ2/3 would be suitable for your mission?

550driver
05-14-2012, 06:01 PM
What kind of Hawker was it...sounds like your plane was old?

Maybe a Beechjet, Premier or CJ2/3 would be suitable for your mission?


Good recommendations.


cantwin
05-15-2012, 02:28 AM
It was an '89 but in ice shape. These things just like the hangar.

BoilerUP
05-15-2012, 03:11 AM
It was an '89 but in ice shape. These things just like the hangar.

I've known LOTS of people that have flown Hawkers, and not one of them have called them a maintenance hog.

grimmdj
05-15-2012, 03:43 AM
Flew and worked on 1A's,700's, and 800's.
Maintenance intensive is probably a better term.
Our Sovereigns (on MSG-3) have a 160 items on a complete
Inspection cycle. As I remember the Hawkers
have well over 600 and numerous x-rays.
Gear overhauls and the inevitable corrosion
Really ratchet up the costs.
Find something newer on a MSG-3 (or similar)
Maintenance program.
Dave

SonnyD
05-15-2012, 08:03 AM
Other than the Phenom 300, is there anything under 25,000 lbs MTOW that's MSG-3?

cantwin
05-15-2012, 08:06 AM
Flew and worked on 1A's,700's, and 800's.
Maintenance intensive is probably a better term.
Our Sovereigns (on MSG-3) have a 160 items on a complete
Inspection cycle. As I remember the Hawkers
have well over 600 and numerous x-rays.
Gear overhauls and the inevitable corrosion
Really ratchet up the costs.
Find something newer on a MSG-3 (or similar)
Maintenance program.
Dave

Maintenance intensive is better term. Always something due!

Upgraded from the Beechjet in 2008, which was right before I came on board.

BoilerUP
05-15-2012, 08:26 AM
Other than the Phenom 300, is there anything under 25,000 lbs MTOW that's MSG-3?

CJ1+, CJ2+, CJ3, CJ4, XLS+...off the top of my head.

LibertyPilot
05-15-2012, 01:40 PM
If you could talk him into it a DA50 is a nice bird with great range. Maintenance isn't as bad as the older Hawkers.

Ludicrous Speed
05-27-2012, 07:14 PM
If you could talk him into it a DA50 is a nice bird with great range. Maintenance isn't as bad as the older Hawkers.

To add, blast off fully loaded out of ASE or EGE in the summer and easily make it to the east coast. Not to mention, carry much more in volume and weight. On top of it all, better cruise and short field performance.