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zondaracer
04-25-2013, 04:32 PM
Etihad has opened up their application window for cadets (0 experience) from all nationalities. It will close on 8 May. Very short window for those suffering from SJS.

I wasn't sure if this should go in low time or Foreign.

Requirements include age between 21 and 26 years
Bachelor of Science or higher
BMI below 30%




International Cadet Pilot



Country UAE City Abu Dhabi Department Flight Operations Closing date 7 May 2013
DescriptionEtihad is the fastest growing airline in commercial aviation history, with one of the youngest and fastest growing fleets of aircraft. Etihad is the commercial carrier of choice for the world’s best pilots, and to support our continual growth we are offering a unique opportunity for exceptional graduates of all nationalities to apply for our International Cadet Pilot Training Programme.

Over the course of the 72 week intensive programme you will be trained to the highest standards.

As a qualified First Officer, you will be part of the Etihad Success Story;

Our vision as an airline stretches beyond the average carrier, our business is key to the continual growth of Abu Dhabi and the United Arab Emirates. An exciting part of the world where East meets West, a broad mix of culture, the Arts and major international sporting events all blended with modern Arabic hospitality.

We are looking for more than just individuals with an aptitude to fly, we want individuals that represent the core values of our business and act as ambassadors for both Abu Dhabi and the UAE.
If that doesn’t excite you then it is worth mentioning we offer full sponsorship for your commercial pilot’s license, one of the most competitive packages available, including a tax free salary, comprehensive health care and a range of in house facilities and services.
An exciting challenge awaits you if you hold a BSc. degree, we are hiring now, deadline for closing is 8th May 2013.

To continue with your application please apply and answer the eligibility questions.
Terms and conditions will apply.









Q 1. What is the Etihad Airways Cadet Pilot Programme?

A. Etihad Airways Cadet Pilot Programme prepares outstanding individuals for the role as a pilot for its modern and expanding fleet. The successful candidate will complete their training at the Horizon International Flight Academy in Al Ain, UAE for duration of 18 months.
Q 2.
How to Apply?

A. To apply for this programme, you must be aged between 18 to 26 at the time of testing; Height 157 to 195 cm; have graduated high school and be medically fit with a BMI (body mass index) of below 30.

You must have the ability to speak English to an equivalent to ICAO level 4 and provide details of such.
Q 3.
What does ‘initial selection’ mean?

A. Initial selection takes places in various parts of the world. To reduce your costs, we will travel to North America, Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia at various times. We do reserve the right to not visit any particular venue if we feel it is not in Etihad’s best interests.

The initial selection comprises of six written aptitude tests, there is no interview at this stage. If you are successful with this stage you will be invited back to Abu Dhabi for the second stage at our cost.
Q 4.
What is the ‘second stage’?

A. The second stage, in Abu Dhabi is more individual. You will have interviews, group exercises and further aptitude tests to complete which will include a psychomotor test. The final element will be a class one medical. The second stage is done with a succeed and continue approach, this means you may be required in Abu Dhabi for the full 3 days or less if you fail to pass any stage of the selection. We do not offer feedback to unsuccessful candidates.
Q 5.
Am I considered as Etihad Employee if selected for the Cadet Pilot Programme?

A. No. You will be enrolled as a permanent full time employee of Etihad Airways subject to completion of the necessary medical examinations, security checks, and police clearance and after successful completion of your frozen ATPL. Until this point you will be employed on a training contract. The exact details of this will be made clear to you at your initial selection.
Q 6.
Will I get paid during the Foundation Course/Training?

A. Yes. The company will pay you a salary on a monthly basis; this will not be subject to annual increments or bonuses as per main line staff within Etihad during the next 18 months at Horizon International Flight Academy in Al Ain.
Q 7.
Will I be provided an accommodation and transportation during the course period?

A. Cadets are provided with single bedroom shared accommodation in Al Ain. Transportation is provided to and from the Horizon academy and to all other venues required by Etihad.
Q 8.
How long is the Cadet Pilot Programme/Training Course?

A. The cadet pilot program will take 2 years to complete. This should include your type rating course, however this will depend on Etihad Airways training commitments at the time.
Q 9.
What will be my Position Title after the Cadet Pilot Program?

A. After the successful completion of the Cadet Pilot Program, you will be required to sign another employment contract with Etihad Airways to serve as a Second Officer.


gcpilot
04-25-2013, 06:05 PM
why not take experienced RJ drivers from the US without Boeing or Airbus type rating and give them a type rating; rather than hire cadets?

The Dominican
04-25-2013, 06:34 PM
why not take experienced RJ drivers from the US without Boeing or Airbus type rating and give them a type rating; rather than hire cadets?

The short answer is longevity, these cadets are more likely to stick around with the company that trained them and introduced them to the business, regional pilots (specially in the US) have been so mistreated by the industry that they have very little loyalty to any particular company/organization, they have been exposed and well versed into the ins and outs of the negative side of the union and although very experienced in bad weather, cold WX operations and complex air spaces, there is also some baggage there (not all cases of course, I know many guys that are extremely professional and that are looking for an exit to the rat race) so they don't want to be a means to resume boosting so that their application at Delta, FedEx looks better.


Apokleros
04-25-2013, 06:41 PM
Will they accept guys 26 years old now, turning 27 in two months?

bcpilot
04-25-2013, 06:54 PM
Will they accept guys 26 years old now, turning 27 in two months?


You should definitely try........ The max they can say is NO..

gcpilot
04-25-2013, 07:47 PM
I can only imagine what the bond will be.... Cathay's bond is very high for cadets and the road to command is very long. I am guessing the bond and the route will not be any easier than Cathay's program.

EY should have taken RJ drivers and given them type ratings but could have made the bond period longer and and the amount higher, if EY wanted return on their investment (loyalty).

zondaracer
04-25-2013, 07:51 PM
There are multiple companies that do cadet programs like this, for example the British Airways Future Pilot Program. They select guys with 0 experience and put them through training and put them on the line with hardly 200 hours total time, meanwhile there are already guys waiting in the hiring pool. Just trying to boost public imagine, it seems.

morerightrudder
04-25-2013, 11:51 PM
Be ready to sign a 10-15 year, non pro-rated training contract...at least.

captjns
04-26-2013, 04:39 AM
Better than joining one of the pay to play schemes. However, a long term commitment is a must, which should not overlooked. One may have to put their personal lives back home on hold for quite a while.

Deep thought and consideration is a must.

Typhoonpilot
04-26-2013, 09:18 PM
I believe the bond period was 7 years. Look for some old threads on the subject. It could have changed, but I'm pretty sure that is what it was.


TP

pitch mode
04-27-2013, 05:56 AM
why not take experienced RJ drivers from the US without Boeing or Airbus type rating and give them a type rating; rather than hire cadets?

Ask Lufthansa that question. Even better why not hire an experienced German RJ driver?

PCLCREW
04-27-2013, 04:07 PM
The short answer is longevity, these cadets are more likely to stick around with the company that trained them and introduced them to the business, regional pilots (specially in the US) have been so mistreated by the industry that they have very little loyalty to any particular company/organization, they have been exposed and well versed into the ins and outs of the negative side of the union and although very experienced in bad weather, cold WX operations and complex air spaces, there is also some baggage there (not all cases of course, I know many guys that are extremely professional and that are looking for an exit to the rat race) so they don't want to be a means to resume boosting so that their application at Delta, FedEx looks better.

I've been trying to break into the Asia-Pacific market for what seems like forever and just the other day I was thinking this is just the reason why I have never heard a thing back from my applications.

The Dominican
04-27-2013, 10:05 PM
I've been trying to break into the Asia-Pacific market for what seems like forever and just the other day I was thinking this is just the reason why I have never heard a thing back from my applications.

It is in fact a small percentage of guys, don't get me wrong, most of the guys that I have heard stories from that come from the regionals are professional, well balanced individuals, but man there is that 10 or 20% that make a name for themselves very quickly:eek:

Apokleros
05-06-2013, 02:06 PM
I have a few questions after researching this cadet thing further; if anyone could answer them, it would be great. If one already has flying experience, must he or she still undergo basic pilot training at Al Ain, or can they progress onwards to the type rating course? What happens after the cadet training is over with? Does one become a second officer or a first officer? Lastly, how long is upgrade to captain at Etihad Airways?

captjns
05-07-2013, 06:32 AM
I have a few questions after researching this cadet thing further; if anyone could answer them, it would be great. If one already has flying experience, must he or she still undergo basic pilot training at Al Ain, or can they progress onwards to the type rating course? What happens after the cadet training is over with? Does one become a second officer or a first officer? Lastly, how long is upgrade to captain at Etihad Airways?


Your questions are best directed towards the EY recruiters for the best accurate answers.

zondaracer
05-07-2013, 08:36 AM
I have a few questions after researching this cadet thing further; if anyone could answer them, it would be great. If one already has flying experience, must he or she still undergo basic pilot training at Al Ain, or can they progress onwards to the type rating course? What happens after the cadet training is over with? Does one become a second officer or a first officer? Lastly, how long is upgrade to captain at Etihad Airways?

The FAQ says that you will be a second officer.

zondaracer
05-07-2013, 06:02 PM
If one already has flying experience, must he or she still undergo basic pilot training at Al Ain, or can they progress onwards to the type rating course?

Second hand information says that maximum experience level to apply is PPL. Beyond that, you fall into the category of the normal recruitment.

Pilotdjkesi
05-10-2013, 01:53 PM
Has anyone that applied heard anything from Etihad?

RemoveB4flght
05-14-2013, 10:05 PM
The main reason for the cadet program is that the government has a big push for companies to hire and train young Emiratis for mid to high level positions. They are already a minority of the population, and with loads of cheap labor available from third world countries, and no shortage of expats looking to make a buck, entry level management type positions are generally how companies comply with this initiative.

A few general questions have already been answered, this is not the company ringing the bell in a desperate attempt to attract pilots. They don't want to type RJ drivers who will then shop around their type rating a year or to later. The company is growing quickly, and the time to command is dropping, so having a supply of young FO's who won't meet the upgrade hour requirements for 6-7 years also means having a steady group of experience in the right seat.

They have opened up the cadet program to a limited number of non-native cadets in the past, but these few dozen out of thousands of applicants world wide were often connected somehow.

It's worth a shot for those who are just getting started with flying, it's definitely a lottery ticket, however for those of you in the trenches flying as CFI's, freight dogs, or regional FOs it's probably not going to happen.

gcpilot
05-15-2013, 06:48 AM
The company is growing quickly, and the time to command is dropping, so having a supply of young FO's who won't meet the upgrade hour requirements for 6-7 years also means having a steady group of experience in the right seat.

Nice insight and a very concise write up on the direction that EY is taking!