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Taylor
12-12-2006, 10:27 AM
I was wondering if you had any suggestions as to where to get study materials for the ATP written. I've looked at All ATP's and Gliem. I've heard of another place (I thought it was somewhere in TX) that was much cheaper. Any suggestions?


1Seat 1Engine
12-12-2006, 12:14 PM
I did home online prep with Lone Eagle Seminars. Might be more than you want to pay but it was all I studied and I had no problem with the test.

http://www.loneeagleseminars.com/

FlyerJosh
12-12-2006, 12:41 PM
Buy the Gleim ATP book.

Scan through the book and recognize some of the patterns in the answers (for instance 99% of the weight shift problems, the answer is the middle VALUE- ie a=135 b=124 c=167 answer is A)

Once you find some of the patterns, go through it with a dark marker or pencil or whatever and cross out all of the wrong answers under the questions (so that you can only see the correct answers).

Read through it several times and learn the answers- Rote memorization is your goal. Odds are 85% of the stuff in the written you'll never use again. (Even if you fly the 737 or 1900, you probably have an easier way to to performance and weight and balance).

Study hard for a day (like 6 hours straight), then go take the test.


Kikuchiyo
12-12-2006, 02:46 PM
I took it at All-ATPs, and they had a gouge sheet which had the patterns for the performance questions FlyerJosh mentioned already worked out. There are about 1500 questions in the master test-bank. All-ATPs prep software only shows you 500 or so of the "most commonly asked" questions. On the official test, I only got asked 2 that hadn't been in the prep questions, and all the performance questions fit the "patterns." That being said, I'd only get it thru them if it was locally convenient, and would probably do the home study otherwise due to the expense.

Spongebob
12-12-2006, 04:40 PM
Also try www.sheppardair.com Same info as All-ATP's, except you can look at the master and you have 90 days worth of studying instead of 1. Cheaper too.

HTH
Spongebob

9999
12-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I used these guys.

http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/GroundSchool/atp.asp

You can study all the questions (1300 or so) or just some of them. They have many different options for you in your studies and only one price, example: show the answers, show only the correct answers, study only mostly asked questions, easy or harder questions, weather questions only, 121 questions only, ect.. It was pretty straightforward and easy. If you opt to take the ATP 135 prep then don't worry about studying any of the jet stuff. It was all 1900 for the 135 stuff. If you do the ATP 121 prep then the jet stuff is what you need to focus on and not the 1900 stuff.

I scored a 96 on mine the first time out and the ones I missed were questions I knew but just blew by without reading all the answers.

Best of luck to you in whatever way you decide to go.

Taylor
12-12-2006, 09:50 PM
Thanks for all of the replies...I know it will differ with all of you but, how much did you study before the test? I'm trying to get this done before January.

So Wonwee
12-12-2006, 11:42 PM
2 weeks-ish, casually. I also use dauntless. Around $30 for the material and you have the code forever to get updates. The program is very user friendly. I used it for my FEx as well.

HSLD
12-13-2006, 12:27 AM
There are about 1500 questions in the master test-bank.

I've always wondered where someone could find the master test bank. While it would be an interesting project, it would be doable to provide the ATP written gouge on this site.

Any ideas on where to get the test bank in electronic format?

9999
12-13-2006, 09:12 AM
Thanks for all of the replies...I know it will differ with all of you but, how much did you study before the test? I'm trying to get this done before January.

I downloaded the software onto my work computer and practiced in my spare time. I took about 2 weeks to do that and felt comfortable enough to take it after that. Good luck in whatever way you decide to go.

Kikuchiyo
12-13-2006, 12:36 PM
I've always wondered where someone could find the master test bank. While it would be an interesting project, it would be doable to provide the ATP written gouge on this site.

Any ideas on where to get the test bank in electronic format?

According to the FAA's ATP test guide:

"(W)e do not publish all test questions. ... Our intent in not publishing every question in the airman test bank is to respond to the public demand for proper evaluation of prospective airmen. It is our duty to respond to these issues and provide valid and reliable tests to make certain that qualified applicants meet the FAA airman knowledge testing standards."

I would've thought that they'd be available as a matter of public record, but I don't know how Gleim, etc. get them in this case.

jzeppelin
12-13-2006, 12:53 PM
I took the All-ATP route in Jacksonville earlier this year. Went in cold, no prior studying. Sat in a box all day scrolling through questions, then took the test after around 8 hours and scored in the high 90's. Believe me, it's an EXTREMELY painful day. But it's only one day. Good luck!

Denny Chimes
12-13-2006, 02:45 PM
I took the All-ATP route in Jacksonville earlier this year. Went in cold, no prior studying. Sat in a box all day scrolling through questions, then took the test after around 8 hours and scored in the high 90's. Believe me, it's an EXTREMELY painful day. But it's only one day. Good luck!

Ditto! Easiest route IMO.

C17MooseDriver
12-21-2006, 06:25 AM
Same here, through the Dallas All ATP though. Did the FEx written the next day also. Both days were extremely painful but I couldn't study at home. I originally went through Sheppard Air's home software, but couldn't devote enough time to studying.

HuronIP
12-22-2006, 08:13 PM
I used www.sheppardair.com. I spent the recommended 15 hours studying for the test. There wasn't a single question on the test that wasn't in the question bank from Sheppard Air. I plan on using them for the FE written too.

MayFly135s
12-23-2006, 03:25 AM
HuronIP...just finished my FE written last week using the Sheppard Air prep. Again there wasn't a single question on the test that wasn't verbatim out of their question bank. You'll be glad the FE test bank drops down to 395 (from about 700 on the ATP).

I've done both the FEX / ATP written and overall I would say Sheppard is a little more pricey than Dauntless, and not as pretty a software presentation, but a 99% and 98% later I would recommend them to anyone.

Happy studying and Merry Christmas,
MayFly

Thumbs882
01-04-2007, 04:00 PM
I used the Gliem and then took the test at ATP. Hammered out a 99% so I would say that worked for me.

rickair7777
01-05-2007, 07:43 AM
I took the All-ATP route in Jacksonville earlier this year. Went in cold, no prior studying. Sat in a box all day scrolling through questions, then took the test after around 8 hours and scored in the high 90's. Believe me, it's an EXTREMELY painful day. But it's only one day. Good luck!

I flew ALL night, drove from the airport to ATP at the GA field, spent ten hours (and a lot of coffee) in front of the computer and got a 96%. Yes, it was painful but the first time I took it was during the post 9/11 slowdown when I had three weeks to devote to Gliem...which got me a 92%. Yeah, I'd recomend ATP.