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07-03-2015, 02:06 PM
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed at length, but I haven't been on the forum in a long time. Does anyone know if one must be a German citizen to take part in Airberlin's ab initio training or are foreigners with a work visa allowed to do so as well?

Thank you in advance!

07-03-2015, 03:21 PM
You do not need to be a German Citizen. In the EU, they cannot discriminate against someone from another EU country, but they can certainly exclude someone who is not a citizen of an EU country.

You do need to know fluent German.

As far as accepting non-EU nationals (or those from the EEC countries), I do not know. Their website does say that you need a full residence permit if you are not from the EU. - airberlin flightschool - Die Flugschule der airberlin (

07-03-2015, 04:59 PM
And you're only allowed to have a Private Pilot Certificate.

If you have any other ratings or certificates you're automatically disqualified. Seems dumb but that's an actual rule.

So if you have your instrument already the Ab-Initio programme is not feasible.

07-03-2015, 05:19 PM
Chances of unemployment are very high doing that program anyway. With the financial situation of the air berlin group and no planned expansion as well as a 20% surplus of pilots in air berlin, chances are kinda low to get a seat in one of their flight decks past the line training (which is part of the flight training contract). The last hired cadets only got part time contracts (50% part time) and there are several courses out of flight training with no job offer at all.

Currently air berlin tries everything to get mainline pilots on secondments to other airlines to avoid having to fire them, which they couldn't afford as it would bankrupt the company.

07-11-2015, 06:58 PM
a lot of the recent grads went on flying for Etihad.

edit: not saying it's a bad thing, but not what most of the guys were expecting after finishing their studies. ;)

07-12-2015, 11:04 PM
Not all that recent, Etihad requires 1500 hours, 1000 of them on jets >60t for A320/330 operation with rating on those types and 2500 for 777 with no rating. No other openings are offered to Air Berlin pilots.

Considering that the last cadets taken on (more than a year ago) only got 50% contracts they have not been able to gain enough hours. Those taken on before spring of 2014 might have enough hours by now though. If one has more than 4000 hours on airbus there was a much more interesting opening though, working for 2 years in china as captains on A320.