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LovetoflyHK
09-09-2015, 12:12 AM
Hello everyone!!! I'm new to this forum. I applied to Cathay Pacific for their advanced entry program. After waiting for some time, they are requesting additional information from me in order to convert my CPL to the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department Commercial license. I'm getting everything they require however they are asking for my CPL Theory test results which I understand is the Commercial Knowledge Exam (written) official score, from the governing agency of my license, which is FAA. I took the exam back in 2004. I gave the written test results to the examiner and that was it. So how do I obtain those records the fastest way possible?

I checked the FAA website and all I found was a request form for replacement of Lost/Stolen knowledge test form. That is not my case and it would take a while it sounds, since request has to be mailed in then mailed back.

After about 10 years from passing the commercial checkride, can I take another written? If so, would it hurt me in anyway with the FAA as to why I'm retaking it? I e-mailed Cathay Pacific and advised them that getting a record from the FAA may be an uphill lengthy battle or I could just take the written exam again which I would not mind doing at all but they responded the following:


CAD requires the results from the respective regulators prior to proceeding with the application, therefore you will be required to have official results from FAA in order to continue to apply.

Their response didn't really say if I could just retake it. What do you guys think is my best option here? I'm not an airline guy, this is my first airline job I'm seeking. I'm a general aviation guy trying to go to Cathay in Hong Kong and this is a job I have been pursuing for a while.


NEDude
09-09-2015, 07:48 AM
Hello everyone!!! I'm new to this forum. I applied to Cathay Pacific for their advanced entry program. After waiting for some time, they are requesting additional information from me in order to convert my CPL to the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department Commercial license. I'm getting everything they require however they are asking for my CPL Theory test results which I understand is the Commercial Knowledge Exam (written) official score, from the governing agency of my license, which is FAA. I took the exam back in 2004. I gave the written test results to the examiner and that was it. So how do I obtain those records the fastest way possible?

I checked the FAA website and all I found was a request form for replacement of Lost/Stolen knowledge test form. That is not my case and it would take a while it sounds, since request has to be mailed in then mailed back.

After about 10 years from passing the commercial checkride, can I take another written? If so, would it hurt me in anyway with the FAA as to why I'm retaking it? I e-mailed Cathay Pacific and advised them that getting a record from the FAA may be an uphill lengthy battle or I could just take the written exam again which I would not mind doing at all but they responded the following:


CAD requires the results from the respective regulators prior to proceeding with the application, therefore you will be required to have official results from FAA in order to continue to apply.

Their response didn't really say if I could just retake it. What do you guys think is my best option here? I'm not an airline guy, this is my first airline job I'm seeking. I'm a general aviation guy trying to go to Cathay in Hong Kong and this is a job I have been pursuing for a while.

You can order a copy of your complete records from the FAA. It will have everything you have ever done, all of your 8710 forms, test results, medical applications.

LovetoflyHK
09-09-2015, 02:35 PM
Anybody had experience with the turn around time to order a complete package from FAA about my history?


NEDude
09-09-2015, 04:06 PM
Anybody had experience with the turn around time to order a complete package from FAA about my history?

It has been a few years since I ordered mine, but if my memory is correct it was less than a month.

A good bit of advice when looking at going overseas is to start gathering all the paperwork as soon as you make the decision to do so because some of it takes a while. Getting the FBI record check takes about a month as well, but then many countries want it certified by the State Department and that will take another few weeks to a month to get done. Some companies are a bit easier and will accept just a report from your local police department which will be quicker than the FBI report. Also when stuff has to get notarised, many companies also want the notarisation certified which means taking it, or sending it, to the Secretary of State of the State you had it notarised in, so they can certify that the notarisation is authentic. To make it even more ridiculous, China then requires you take all the notarised, then certified, documents to their embassy/consulate to get a further certification. So yes, you read that correctly, you need a certification of a certification of a notarisation of a document. So as you can see, unless you live right next to a police department, which has a notary next door, and that notary is next to an office of the Secretary of State, which is next to a Chinese Consulate, there will be a lot of driving or mailing of documents going on. Best to get started early.

Starlifter
09-09-2015, 05:47 PM
Don't forget the lovely apostille process...

If you go to your State government website it should explain how to get a document apostilled.

FWIW

Lifter

Bigman
09-21-2015, 04:28 AM
I used to struggle with them too but now i pass it all the time. You can also try the Farnsworth Lantern test (which is an approved color testing for most authorities including FAA) and see how you do. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

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