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WillFlyForSpam
09-30-2015, 07:50 PM
Got a CJO from a 727 operator. Anybody have any advice before I hit the sim? Or any study guides you'd like to share? Thanks!


JamesNoBrakes
09-30-2015, 08:53 PM
Check essential!

WillFlyForSpam
09-30-2015, 10:35 PM
Check essential!


And now I'm check ride ready!


badflaps
10-01-2015, 04:41 AM
You are about to embark on what will turn out to be the most memorable time in your aviation career.

UAL T38 Phlyer
10-01-2015, 05:31 AM
If this is your first airline job, you will find compound emergencies challenging. IE, you have three problems: a dead (burning) engine, loss of hydraulics from said fire, and loss of generator from that engine, and you have to thumb through wide areas of the manual to find the checklists you want.

You didn't say if this was for FO or FE. If FE, balancing fuel and keeping the electrics on line requires vigilance, and there are mneumonics such as "I-Trip" and "H-Trip" that will help you remember what to do. (So-named because of the pattern the Illuminated lights make).

FO? Old school round dials, and Math In Public. You will need to calculate your own descent gradients. There is an old 727 adage: "If you can see it over the nose, you can land it," meaning with all the drag out, it will make a very steep descent, but that's not the most efficient way to do it.

Be prepared to lose some of your hearing. :p I wore ear plugs....you might have the money for a Noise Cancelling headset.

I thought it was more challenging than expected, engine-out, for yaw, but it was only my second airliner, I only flew the first one for 5 months....I was green in the airliner biz.

Landing: a mystery, just like women. One day you would grease it on and think "I have got this thing wired!!" The next day, you would register on the Richter scale, and you would pray the "rubber jungle" wasn't hanging in the back (thankfully, it never happened to me!)

Flew it for a year as FE and FO, and loved it. A classic of aviation.

Good luck.

Twin Wasp
10-01-2015, 12:07 PM
Three thousand pounds of fuel flow per engine is almost a magic number. Seems like it would hold any speed between 200 and 250 clean. And if you've lost an engine 4500 is a good starting point.

WillFlyForSpam
10-02-2015, 12:56 AM
Thanks to everyone for the advice! It isn't my first airline job but it is my first jet job and I'll be an FO. Most of my time is in the King air and Shorts 330! I'm excited and nervous.

badflaps
10-02-2015, 10:03 AM
Before you kick off the A/P roll the manual trim forward a little and it won't buck. They will think you are an old hand.

Yard flyer
10-02-2015, 10:20 AM
Don't be nervous . She is probably the finest flying airliner ever built . Very demanding when you first start flying it ! But over time you will find your sweet spot and this will be evident by the manner in which the airplane performs . Enjoy and congrats .

Spin
10-02-2015, 10:33 AM
Lucky guy. Enjoy it.

ncpilot1996
10-04-2015, 08:02 PM
I like your username... Spam is the bomb lol

Thedude
10-04-2015, 11:00 PM
Get some good noise cancelling headsets. I wished I had.

727C47
10-05-2015, 01:42 AM
My first jet, I loved her, flew in every seat, I still love the 727, there is some great advice in this thread, you will love this jet,smoke,thunder, and speed is her essence.



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