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10-05-2015, 11:21 AM
Air France workers rip shirts from executives after airline cuts 2,900 jobs | World news | The Guardian (

10-05-2015, 11:29 AM
"Roadshow." Perfect.

10-05-2015, 05:26 PM
I love it.

screamin jet
10-05-2015, 06:42 PM
Air France Workers Rip Shirts From Top Managers in Jobs Protest - Bloomberg Business (

Holy cow! These guys don't take NO for an answer. At CDG airport. :eek:

10-05-2015, 07:09 PM
Air France Workers Rip Shirts From Top Managers in Jobs Protest - Bloomberg Business (

Holy cow! These guys don't take NO for an answer. At CDG airport. :eek:

And the pilots at AF have forced the company to cut routes. The pilots have gone on strike for improvements when the company is bleeding. I'm not on either side but European Unions are screwed up.

10-06-2015, 12:43 PM
Symbolic and mostly harmless violence if there is such a thing.....the French sure know how complain properly

10-06-2015, 01:17 PM
Symbolic and mostly harmless violence if there is such a thing.....the French sure know how complain properly
These are the same French who invented the guilotine.

10-06-2015, 02:07 PM
These are the same French who invented the guilotine.
And then used it.

10-06-2015, 02:23 PM
That's battery

10-06-2015, 07:01 PM
Sacre Bleu! Descamisados today, Sans Culottes tomorrow! :eek:

10-07-2015, 09:26 PM
I strongly encourage this behavior in the U.S from American workers especially in the airlines...American Executives are bigger scumbags than their French counterparts...

10-08-2015, 08:57 AM
Vive la Revolution!

Need this kind of thing in the 'States - badly!

10-08-2015, 09:13 PM
Sure, if you like going to jail.

10-09-2015, 08:25 AM
Violent Attacks at Air France Highlight Airline Troubles, Overall
Air France managers are attacked for proposed cutbacks—but even more winnowing is needed
Oct 9, 2015 Jens Flottau | Aviation Week & Space Technology

Over the Fence
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Imagine this: Company management meets with employee representatives after negotiations about efficiency measures have failed. Shortly after the meeting begins, dozens of angry protesters storm the company headquarters, effectively shutting down the proceedings. A short while later, videos of a shaken human resources (HR) director and another company executive go viral on social media. They depict the drama of the HR executive climbing a fence to escape the mob, his clothes in tatters. Police swoop in, and the managers are rescued.

It sounds like overwrought fiction, but this is exactly what happened to Air France Executive Vice President of Human Resources Xavier Broseta in Paris in front of the airline’s headquarters. The Oct. 5 incident is arguably the worst clash between airline management and labor in recent memory. And according to Broseta’s own account of what happened, it was only due to the caution and responsible action of the union leadership that Air France CEO Frederic Gagey escaped unhurt. At one point, shortly before things got out of control, he was asked to leave the conference room because the union felt his safety was no longer guaranteed.

While the violence was immediately criticized by union leaders, it is really just the most dramatic sign of the ongoing existential crisis at Air France. This is probably the death knell for one of Europe’s great aviation brands. The company will not disappear altogether, but it will become a shadow of its former self. Its unit costs are by far the highest in Europe’s airline industry, but before the Oct. 5 outbreak unions had rejected even modest efficiency measures proposed by management. Some refused to even talk.


The consequences are clear: Air France will cut 2,900 jobs and shrink the long-haul network. Five widebody aircraft are going to be taken out of service next year; another nine will follow in 2017. Also, the airline looks set to cancel an order for 25 Boeing 787s—a potentially painful, although ultimately manageable, setback for the manufacturer.

The unions are well aware of the draconian means being called for. But the truth is, these measures are not nearly sufficient to return the airline to a stable footing. Many more far-reaching decisions are needed.

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Jean-Marie Baroux, who is running an airline consulting and services company in Paris, argued in a commentary for La Tribune newspaper that because the airline ultimately needs fresh capital, it has to consider discarding some units. Maintenance organization Air France Industries could be a candidate; other airlines have looked at selling their MRO business to generate cash, but in this specific case it may be hard to do because the unit predominantly works for one customer—Air France. Another potential candidate is regional carrier Hop!, but who would buy a business with such unclear prospects?

Baroux even suggested Air France should split from KLM, but it is difficult to see how management would benefit from such an extreme measure, which would reverse the very core of its strategy for the past 10 years.

But interestingly, the Air France crisis, among other things, underscores the trouble with operating expensive hubs. The feeder network is one of the biggest problems the airline is facing. Ironically, the airline may actually still be among the best-placed of its peers to tackle the problem: Paris is such a strong origin/destination market that the flag carrier is less reliant on feed from other markets than some of its competitors including Lufthansa, Iberia or Swiss International Air Lines, let alone its partner KLM. Cutting some of the feed would lead to further shrinking, but it would not undermine the rest of the long-haul network—or at least not as quickly—as it would for carriers that cannot primarily fill long-haul destinations from one big market.

All of this is theory, of course, because such decisions may be seen as being too politically sensitive to be viable.

Speaking of politics, it is important to remember that Air France, through Air France-KLM, is still partly owned by the French government. While interference from the state has been a chronic problem for the airline—it has clearly slowed down its restructuring efforts—by now the situation has become so desperate that management is likely relieved that it has that kind of life insurance in place.

It might actually need it.

10-09-2015, 03:54 PM
Sacre Bleu! Descamisados today, Sans Culottes tomorrow! :eek:
Hahahaha...trop bon! That was good! Thanks for the laugh!
Anyways, SNPL is THE most powerful union in France and maybe in the world.
I wish we had an SNPL like alpa to address this regional airline scam we have in the U.S.!

Vital Signs
10-09-2015, 07:03 PM
A few months old but " hows that socialism working out?" About 17% ownership and Too big to fail no doubt. :rolleyes:
"Our vote cant count only once....thats unfair!"

French government boosts stake in Air France-KLM - MarketWatch (