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mike734
04-17-2016, 04:36 PM
That didn't take long. I heard it's because it's scary in the winter. You know, I probably made that up.
Delta Airlines to end year-round service in Juneau | Local News - KTUU.com Anchorage (http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/delta-airlines-to-end-yearround-service-in-juneau/38981346#)


trustbutverify
04-17-2016, 05:56 PM
That didn't take long. I heard it's because it's scary in the winter. You know, I probably made that up.
Delta Airlines to end year-round service in Juneau | Local News - KTUU.com Anchorage (http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/delta-airlines-to-end-yearround-service-in-juneau/38981346#)

Your arrogance is astounding.

full of luv
04-17-2016, 07:20 PM
That didn't take long. I heard it's because it's scary in the winter. You know, I probably made that up.
Delta Airlines to end year-round service in Juneau | Local News - KTUU.com Anchorage (http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/delta-airlines-to-end-yearround-service-in-juneau/38981346#)

Well the one thing that Delta mgmt understands is revenue mgmt. If there isn't the revenue on that route to support the service, then it is what it is.

I know you see Delta's building up of their hub in Seattle as some personal attack, but in truth, Delta's mgmt tried to build a more complete west coast code share program with ALK when ALK mgmt decided to dance with any girl in the room, so like a bad date, there's been a slow breakup.

Delta wants to serve a west coast Asia hub out of Seattle, and as far as DAL pilots are concerned, ALK mgmt did the best favor possible by forcing DAL to build it's own hub.

Despite showing your hubris online, you should be happy that DAL realized their isn't enough demand from Juno to the rest of DAL's network during the winter as this will inevitably allow ALK to charge and make more from that route.

Have a great week.


Mudhen200
04-17-2016, 09:07 PM
Shouldn't this article say that Delta told SkyWest to stop flying year round the Juneau?

N19906
04-17-2016, 09:17 PM
Bwaaa-haa-haa! Big "D" found it tough to fly to Juneau?
Poor kids. Probably thought it'd be a summer field trip!

FogHorn
04-17-2016, 09:20 PM
Shouldn't this article say that Delta told SkyWest to stop flying year round the Juneau?

They've been flying the 73 to JNU this winter.

contrails
04-17-2016, 09:28 PM
Bwaaa-haa-haa! Big "D" found it tough to fly to Juneau?
Poor kids. Probably thought it'd be a summer field trip!

Unlike another airline, JNU is about .03% of the DL network.

Point being, this is barely mentionable except to someone who's trying to make something of it.

Justdoinmyjob
04-18-2016, 04:16 AM
Well the one thing that Delta mgmt understands is revenue mgmt. If there isn't the revenue on that route to support the service, then it is what it is.

I know you see Delta's building up of their hub in Seattle as some personal attack, but in truth, Delta's mgmt tried to build a more complete west coast code share program with ALK when ALK mgmt decided to dance with any girl in the room, so like a bad date, there's been a slow breakup.

Delta wants to serve a west coast Asia hub out of Seattle, and as far as DAL pilots are concerned, ALK mgmt did the best favor possible by forcing DAL to build it's own hub.

Despite showing your hubris online, you should be happy that DAL realized their isn't enough demand from Juno to the rest of DAL's network during the winter as this will inevitably allow ALK to charge and make more from that route.

Have a great week.

Exactly.

@Mike734,
"Travel expert Scott McMurren says fares between Juneau and Seattle will likely increase after Delta reduces its operations."

You guys are gonna need to make as much money as possible, to choke down that Virgin buy. Good luck with that.

GogglesPisano
04-18-2016, 05:08 AM
Bwaaa-haa-haa! Big "D" found it tough to fly to Juneau?
Poor kids. Probably thought it'd be a summer field trip!

Ya. Because flying non-precision approaches in a nonradar (practically uncontrolled as well) environment in the middle of the night in Africa or South America isn't more challenging than Junoeaui.

Perspective!

mike734
04-18-2016, 09:05 AM
Your arrogance is astounding.

Not arrogance, joking. Gawd you guys are easy.

WhatNow
04-18-2016, 12:27 PM
Not arrogance, joking. Gawd you guys are easy.

The interesting thing is Delta has had a better completion record on the route then Alaska. They had zero flights not make it last summer. We were told it was incredibly difficult and we would divert constantly on this forum.

Rabid Seagull
04-18-2016, 03:31 PM
You guys are easy...

5 passengers??? Tough times ahead.

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Now Delta is fighting back. Delta is saying that the demand between Atlanta and Doha is less than five people per day, so how can that possibly be the basis of a route? Per Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2016/04/15/delta-says-atlanta-doha-has-just-five-daily-passengers-so-how-can-qatar-airways-operate-there/#6d7ebd641577):
“Demand is less than five people a day” for Atlanta-Doha service, incoming Delta President Glen Hauenstein said Thursday on the carrier’s first quarter earnings call. He referred to the demand for travel between Atlanta and Doha, not including connecting passengers at either destination.
Later, asked whether Delta operates any routes where it has only five origin and destination passengers a day, Hauenstein responded sarcastically, “We don’t have any flights crossing the world that have less than 10 people a day.”
Delta president and incoming CEO Ed Bastian added, “We do have some markets that we have four or five passengers on.
“We call that Delta Private Jets,” Bastian said, referring to Delta’s luxury jet charter subsidiary.
This is a very unsophisticated argument on Delta’s part. We all know there’s not much demand for travel on the Gulf carriers to their actual hubs, but rather that their business models are based around offering connecting flights. That’s the whole argument the US carriers make, so I’m not sure why they’re trying to undermine it with this point.
And for that matter, I’d bet there are many Delta routes with similar numbers. I’d be very curious what the daily demand is between Minneapolis and Amsterdam, a route which Delta serves daily. It’s pretty disingenuous for them to pretend the don’t rely on connecting traffic just as much in many markets.

nwaf16dude
04-18-2016, 04:11 PM
I think the point is, who is going to provide any feed to Qatar flights from ATL-Doha? If you look at Qatar's list of code share partners, American is the only one with any presence in ATL, and I can't imagine that they will provide enough passengers to make it a profitable route for Qatar. If Qatar cared about making any money, they would be flying CLT-Doha where they actually have a structure in place to feed the flight. This ATL flight is all about trying to stick a finger in Delta's eye.

Bananie
04-19-2016, 09:29 AM
My 737 can beat up your 737.

full of luv
04-19-2016, 11:03 AM
My 737 can beat up your 737.

Only if your 737 is crewed by a highly trained, battle weather tested, specifically chosen, bush qualified, particularly skilled, steely eyed, Alaskan pilot that doesn't bid Hawaii instead of Juno.;)

Juan Trippe
04-19-2016, 06:31 PM
http://youtu.be/jmcVODW1p0I

:D

Rudder
04-19-2016, 09:11 PM
If I bid to BKK does that make me bush qualified?

maddogmax
04-20-2016, 03:27 AM
Or just visit the "Great Alaskan Bush Company"

full of luv
04-20-2016, 04:43 AM
Or just visit the "Great Alaskan Bush Company"

Funny thing though.... there was very little "Bush" at the GABC!

A couple of runways, but always very well trimmed!

Or so I've been told...

tomgoodman
04-20-2016, 09:02 PM
That didn't take long. I heard it's because it's scary in the winter. You know, I probably made that up.
Delta Airlines to end year-round service in Juneau | Local News - KTUU.com Anchorage (http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/delta-airlines-to-end-yearround-service-in-juneau/38981346#)

It is scary up there in the winter! :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNZwuamwj0

v=yJNZwuamwj0