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MartinBishop
05-04-2016, 01:16 PM
Survey: Allegiant pilots want out, are seeking other jobs - Story | abcactionnews.com | Tampa Bay News, Weather, Sports, Things To Do | WFTS-TV (http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/survey-allegiant-pilots-want-out-are-seeking-other-jobs)


VegassBus
05-04-2016, 01:18 PM
Burn it down!!!!!!!!!

disco inferno
05-04-2016, 02:19 PM
Burn it down!!!!!!!!!
Can I borrow a match?


VegassBus
05-04-2016, 02:21 PM
Can I borrow a match?

Currently starting the flame thrower for Spirit :)

NoAccoutrements
05-04-2016, 02:34 PM
Congratulations to the Allegiant pilot group for gaining some well deserved exposure in the news! These airline executives would be embarrassed if they weren't soulless demons.

tailendcharlie
05-04-2016, 02:54 PM
Sounds good.....there's a "Pilot Shortage" after all.
Except the reality is as a non-military non-flowthrough applicant the average Allegiant pilot has barely a ghost of a chance at a legacy job, al least for now. Spirit/Virgin/jetBlue/Frontier yeah maybe if you want to risk starting over at the bottom and can afford new-hire pay. The one decent option that seems to be hiring some Allegiant folks is Southwest, but you may have a 15-year upgrade timeframe.

Heard L3's looking for some ISR pilots in Iraq....

disco inferno
05-04-2016, 03:02 PM
Sounds good.....there's a "Pilot Shortage" after all.
Except the reality is as a non-military non-flowthrough applicant the average Allegiant pilot has barely a ghost of a chance at a legacy job, al least for now. Spirit/Virgin/jetBlue/Frontier yeah maybe if you want to risk starting over at the bottom and can afford new-hire pay. The one decent option that seems to be hiring some Allegiant folks is Southwest, but you may have a 15-year upgrade timeframe.

Heard L3's looking for some ISR pilots in Iraq....
2 guys I was hired with were hired at United that I know of. In less than 2 years, my new hire class has experienced almost 25% attrition. They are hiring us out there. Keep plugging away. I am.

tailendcharlie
05-04-2016, 03:08 PM
Good for them.....I'm kinda tired of hearing about all these awesome opportunities out there....friends (captains) being sent home from job fairs with admonitions to "volunteer more & get some management experience"......in the 250 range @ Allegiant barely moving up at all tells me the 5-year & up crowd are either not trying or just can't get hired....we're probably considered too weird for sticking around here this long lol.

eagleatr
05-04-2016, 03:24 PM
Out of the 12 people that were in my new hire class at Allegiant, I think there are 2 left.

Everyone else has moved on to other, and better, places.

Opakapaka
05-04-2016, 05:52 PM
The one decent option that seems to be hiring some Allegiant folks is Southwest, but you may have a 15-year upgrade timeframe.

Maybe it takes 15 yrs, doubt it, but in 6th yr pay $160K easy and by 10 yrs easily making $200K as an FO. After a new contract signed that money will come quicker.

HVYMETALDRVR
05-05-2016, 12:49 AM
Sounds good.....there's a "Pilot Shortage" after all.
Except the reality is as a non-military non-flowthrough applicant the average Allegiant pilot has barely a ghost of a chance at a legacy job, al least for now. Spirit/Virgin/jetBlue/Frontier yeah maybe if you want to risk starting over at the bottom and can afford new-hire pay. The one decent option that seems to be hiring some Allegiant folks is Southwest, but you may have a 15-year upgrade timeframe.


I disagree, if you can upgrade without busting and hit up a job fair I think the odds of getting to a Legacy are good for a G4 Captain. I've flown with a decent number of CAs (more than 5 non-military) that have all left, and that's just here in Florida in the last two years. The catch being all have gone to either SWA or United. Quite a few went to Atlas, although I'm expecting that that change now with the merger drama. I won't disagree with your assessment when it comes to DL and AA.

That being said, the majority of CAs I meet are more passive aggressive about bailing since they live in base and are waiting to see what the next contract offers. That is what has been giving people the illusion that G4 pilots "can't/aren't" being picked up by the majors. They're not trying as hard to get out as the RJ guys.

tailendcharlie
05-05-2016, 05:56 AM
I would agree if you've been here a while & on captain pay or top FO pay, kids & a family etc.... kind of hard to bail for someplace like Spirit. In that situation most folks are limiting their search to UA/DL/AA maybe WN.

Machaca
05-05-2016, 06:22 AM
I would agree if you've been here a while & on captain pay or top FO pay, kids & a family etc.... kind of hard to bail for someplace like Spirit. In that situation most folks are limiting their search to UA/DL/AA maybe WN.

Not kind of hard...practically ridiculous, particularly given that the nonsense we are dealing with is not really that different elsewhere. Same crap, different day...



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