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Old 08-18-2019, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
They can now buy anyone and everyone and merge the contracts, shift flying, whipsaw to their hearts contact.
I haven't looked at the provisions for a while, but isn't the fact that both carriers are represented by 1224 part of the reason they can do this? So that kind of narrows the field of who they could acquire to reproduce this result. Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely. Of course, with this management team, one does want as much protection as possible.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:25 AM
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Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely.
Amerijet with its maxed out CA pay of $131k comes to mind.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
I haven't looked at the provisions for a while, but isn't the fact that both carriers are represented by 1224 part of the reason they can do this? So that kind of narrows the field of who they could acquire to reproduce this result. Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely. Of course, with this management team, one does want as much protection as possible.
They only need one every 6-7 years. That’s easy enough.

I’d say we are two years away from a CBA. A new hire will never see -400 Captain, and upgrade on the 767 could be close to 10 years for a new hire today.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
They only need one every 6-7 years. That’s easy enough.
Airlines could be created solely for that purpose with the knowledge that Atlas would pay a premium for it at the right time. AAWH pilots will never vote on a contract.
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Old 08-18-2019, 04:11 AM
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Simple fix; an in-house union.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw View Post
Simple fix; an in-house union.
Too easy and way too much independence - the focus would just be on the contract etc vs some of the big picture ****ing matches / legal fees / dues up to both the national and the federal for political activities etc.

That said, I think even teamsters and SEIU might be looking to get back to more just plain worker organizing - I do wish 1224 would keep up their "annual" pay comparisons - or did I miss that somewhere?
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw View Post
Simple fix; an in-house union.
But... ??? Ah, never mind!
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:34 AM
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But... ??? Ah, never mind!
You’re preaching to the choir, pal.
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:38 AM
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So would it be worth coming to Southern for the triple right now? Received an offer to interview...
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:40 AM
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So would it be worth coming to Southern for the triple right now? Received an offer to interview...
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