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Old 09-03-2021, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJJ View Post
12/07/20 cvg 747
2021-02-01 on the last award.
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Old 09-03-2021, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
2021-02-01 on the last award.
Even better for the guy asking :-)
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Old 09-03-2021, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash742 View Post
In the case of the real Classics (747-300/-200) a major limiting factor near the end was a dried up parts pool. When no one else is operating the equipment the wait for parts, even the most basic parts, becomes days.
Totally agree as I was using the Classics as the example. 400 parts won’t be drying up anytime soon. Although -800i’s were never really popular, the Freighters did pretty well but nearly as rampant as the 400s. Plenty of -800i’s laying around so both will be hanging around for awhile thankfully. A380s never really had it in them to be freighters despite the FedEx and I think maybe even UPS attempts. Personally I could care less , but it just wasn’t in the cards - Plenty of those mothballed even previously to the viral craze.
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Old 09-03-2021, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by C17B74 View Post
Totally agree as I was using the Classics as the example. 400 parts won’t be drying up anytime soon. Although -800i’s were never really popular, the Freighters did pretty well but nearly as rampant as the 400s. Plenty of -800i’s laying around so both will be hanging around for awhile thankfully. A380s never really had it in them to be freighters despite the FedEx and I think maybe even UPS attempts. Personally I could care less , but it just wasn’t in the cards - Plenty of those mothballed even previously to the viral craze.

Only because if I don't do it, someone else inevitably will:


...... what's a -800?
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Old 09-03-2021, 07:29 PM
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Only because if I don't do it, someone else inevitably will:


...... what's a -800?

There is no such thing as a 747-400, or any other -X00 in the Boeing world. The two zeros are simply placeholders for the customer code.

Korean Air is a good example, since they have ordered pretty much every 747 model. Their customer code is B5.

So a 747-400 built for Korean Air Lines is actually a 747-4B5.

A 747-8 built for Korean Airlines is a.... wait for it... 747-8B5.

Calling it a 747-8 instead of calling it a 747-800 is just marketing department masturbation.
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Old 09-03-2021, 08:05 PM
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Good run down, couldn’t have said it better myself - not kidding.

Being me, “It’s the looonger 747 with the larger wingspan, 777 like newer wing tips and teeth on the trailing edge of the Engine Cowling, funny looking blades from the front.” And it doesn’t need rubber bands - don’t like the box behind box galley at all and if I keep eating like I do I will miss the 400’s fat Capt bathroom even more. That’s all I got. Thx Dash.
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Old 09-03-2021, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash742 View Post
There is no such thing as a 747-400, or any other -X00 in the Boeing world. The two zeros are simply placeholders for the customer code.

Korean Air is a good example, since they have ordered pretty much every 747 model. Their customer code is B5.

So a 747-400 built for Korean Air Lines is actually a 747-4B5.

A 747-8 built for Korean Airlines is a.... wait for it... 747-8B5.

Calling it a 747-8 instead of calling it a 747-800 is just marketing department masturbation.


While my post was meant to be tongue in cheek (of course its silly to nitpick over aircraft type details like -400 and -8, who really cares), Boeing absolutely differentiates between the two formats in their manuals, website, public correspondence, etc. As does the FAA. So to bring up the customer code which is hardly ever referenced by anyone, nonetheless pilots, is a lame argument. But good effort.

*Full Disclosure I referred to the -8 as the -800 as late as a few weeks after my -8 differences sim. As I said... tongue in cheek.
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Old 09-03-2021, 10:18 PM
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Back on point: The opportunity for 747-8i (PAX version) whatever you want to call it will most likely be available from either Lufthansa or Korean Air eventually with very low hours compared to previous freighter conversions of any model so there’s that. Maybe….

Imagine the upper deck on that, we could do wind sprints…
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Old 09-04-2021, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dash742 View Post
There is no such thing as a 747-400, or any other -X00 in the Boeing world. The two zeros are simply placeholders for the customer code.

Korean Air is a good example, since they have ordered pretty much every 747 model. Their customer code is B5.

So a 747-400 built for Korean Air Lines is actually a 747-4B5.

A 747-8 built for Korean Airlines is a.... wait for it... 747-8B5.

Calling it a 747-8 instead of calling it a 747-800 is just marketing department masturbation.

Boring seems to differ from your thought process. But what do I know? I’m just RJ scum. https://www.boeing.com/resources/boe...-passenger.pdf
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Old 09-04-2021, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by C17B74 View Post
Back on point: The opportunity for 747-8i (PAX version) whatever you want to call it will most likely be available from either Lufthansa or Korean Air eventually with very low hours compared to previous freighter conversions of any model so there’s that. Maybe….

Imagine the upper deck on that, we could do wind sprints…
I don't see the -8i as a popular conversion unless they cut quite a bit of the upper deck flooring out. (not sure that is even possible) You lose an awful lot of tall pallet positions. I predict they become parts planes for the -8 freighters for many years to come.
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