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Old 08-14-2021, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IFlyHeavies View Post
90 days? Oh boy…. Is the hotel at least decent?
I was the longest in my class at 78 days on the 767, the rest did between 4-8 days less. I think the 747 has a couple more sims at the end so probably pushing 80-85 is normal.

The hotel rooms have kitchenettes, with the occasional room with an oven. Nearby grocery store that was walkable when it wasn’t the middle of the day but a lot of people used a grocery delivery app.

Breakfast included but you get sick of the same stuff over and over pretty quick.
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Old 08-14-2021, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Setspeed View Post
I was the longest in my class at 78 days on the 767, the rest did between 4-8 days less. I think the 747 has a couple more sims at the end so probably pushing 80-85 is normal.

The hotel rooms have kitchenettes, with the occasional room with an oven. Nearby grocery store that was walkable when it wasn’t the middle of the day but a lot of people used a grocery delivery app.

Breakfast included but you get sick of the same stuff over and over pretty quick.
Around 95 days seems to be the norm for 747 right now, with a few breaks in between where most go home for a couple of days. With the way my schedule is set right now, it will be somewhere between 95 to 100 days including the stuff after the rating ride.
The pace of training is very, shall we say, relaxed.
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Old 09-22-2021, 03:12 PM
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Around 95 days seems to be the norm for 747 right now, with a few breaks in between where most go home for a couple of days. With the way my schedule is set right now, it will be somewhere between 95 to 100 days including the stuff after the rating ride.
The pace of training is very, shall we say, relaxed.
The new hire packet says don't go home or else you'll be in big trouble. What is the actual story?
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Old 09-22-2021, 08:43 PM
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The new hire packet says don't go home or else you'll be in big trouble. What is the actual story?
They will work with you if you have a longer block of days off. Don't go home if you have 2-3 days off, it's not worth it. But for 10 days, no problem.

They treat you well here while in training. Ignore all the "you'll be in big trouble" nonsense.
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The new hire packet says don't go home or else you'll be in big trouble. What is the actual story?
Your schedule in training will change often once you leave the classroom. All the trainer/sim based stuff will change a lot, often with very short notice that wouldn’t allow you to get back to MIA in time if you’re very far away and trying to travel by air. If you see 5 days off on your schedule…don’t be surprised if(when) that changes to a day off, a SIT session, a day off, another SIT session, a day off…. Sims and trainers break often. They’re rode hard and put away wet. That is what drives most of the changes.

Additionally, if you or your sim partner has troubles and has to get remedial training, you will likely be split up and that will throw both of your schedules into disarray.

If you feel the need to absolutely, positively go home…talk to the training schedulers. They will give you the official “you’re not supposed to leave”…but they will also keep in mind if you do leave that they need to give you as much notice as possible for changes…which, again, may not be much. 10 hours notice is what they’re supposed to give…but don’t always and new hires are often afraid to say “I can’t do that”.

If you have a block of days off and live very far away…you’re better off flying your family down to MIA, renting a car, and taking a trip not too far away. Who doesn’t want to go see the overcrowded beaches of South Florida, the swamps of Central Florida, the retirement land of West Florida, or the severely overpriced/overcrowded Keys?!
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt View Post
The new hire packet says don't go home or else you'll be in big trouble. What is the actual story?
You can go home, but be prepared to perform when you get back. After oral and before sims is a worthwhile break. If you're struggling, consider skipping the trip. If you're nervous, make the trip more of a priority. You'll have a good read on what's best about three weeks in.

What fleet are you coming to?
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Old 09-22-2021, 08:53 PM
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the new contract does mandate 48 hours off after training if you have a 5 day stretch in a row, so that would protect you there from schedule changes. I had to make one stop at home during training just because I don't have anybody to check my mail and they sent my uniforms there (who's idea was that?). But if being gone for that long in a row is an absolute deal-breaker. It might not be the job for you. Although it's understandable the 90 days away is a lot different than 17.
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Originally Posted by Elevation View Post
You can go home, but be prepared to perform when you get back. After oral and before sims is a worthwhile break. If you're struggling, consider skipping the trip. If you're nervous, make the trip more of a priority. You'll have a good read on what's best about three weeks in.

What fleet are you coming to?
The general consensus at the moment is that the training schedulers are decent people and will work with you for what you need.

But do not go home before your oral unless you absolutely have to.
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they sent my uniforms there (who's idea was that?).
That was your idea. They ask for delivery address on the order form. The hotel address worked perfect.
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus View Post
the new contract does mandate 48 hours off after training if you have a 5 day stretch in a row, so that would protect you there from schedule changes. I had to make one stop at home during training just because I don't have anybody to check my mail and they sent my uniforms there (who's idea was that?). But if being gone for that long in a row is an absolute deal-breaker. It might not be the job for you. Although it's understandable the 90 days away is a lot different than 17.
New contract scheduling rules are not in effect at this time. No telling when they will be….that has not yet been determined.
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