SA 777 Stall on Departure?
11-20-2020, 12:04 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Elevation
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Also these guys are having a bad enough time already. If we won't get accurate insights through speculation we might as well avoid dragging our brethren through the rocks publicly.
Also these guys are having a bad enough time already. If we won't get accurate insights through speculation we might as well avoid dragging our brethren through the rocks publicly.
11-20-2020, 08:22 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
As they say, the Devil will be in the details. I’d expect this from a newbie coming to his first heavy from an RJ. Lots of them just don’t get the whole min clean speed being well above 250, even when under 10k. See it a lot in recent years.
11-21-2020, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RI830
These incidents prove that it can happen to any of us! I distinctly remember after the Max crashes and other stall events that many around here boastfully stated.....”Us American pilots would have just taken control of that airplane and flown it, recovered and saved the day!......see what foreign trained crews did”
Be humble and remember this business is unforgiving!
Be humble and remember this business is unforgiving!
Except they did take control, hand fly it and handled business.
If anything it backs up the stereotype.
11-21-2020, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
I’d expect this from a newbie coming to his first heavy from an RJ.
They took care of business and flew out of it, that's the important point
11-22-2020, 10:05 AM
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You are absolutely correct ^. Sadly though the lesser developed pilot ego requires a lot of them to throw “lesser than themselves “ under the bus so that they can feel better about their self perceived skills and experience. Dangerous and sad thing.
The age old “this could have happened to me” would be much more applicable here and would actually show your maturity, in both your persona and flying skills.
I think it is very likely someone screwed something up, but more importantly is they flew out of it and now hopefully we can learn from it.
The age old “this could have happened to me” would be much more applicable here and would actually show your maturity, in both your persona and flying skills.
I think it is very likely someone screwed something up, but more importantly is they flew out of it and now hopefully we can learn from it.
11-22-2020, 12:19 PM
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The thought, "There but for the grace of God go I," when observing challenges experienced by others (in both life and work), has kept me humble-ish, forced me to learn rather than judge, and helped me to avoid many kinds of trouble.
11-22-2020, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee
The thought, "There but for the grace of God go I,"........
He's an absentee landlord, a kid with an ant farm. He doesn't care, and doesn't lift a finger let alone give any grace....
However, since it could happen to anybody, I'd go with folks in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
better yet, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
11-22-2020, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
Oh boy, don't go bringing him into it; his big thing is free will; he won't get involved.
He's an absentee landlord, a kid with an ant farm. He doesn't care, and doesn't lift a finger let alone give any grace....
However, since it could happen to anybody, I'd go with folks in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
better yet, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
He's an absentee landlord, a kid with an ant farm. He doesn't care, and doesn't lift a finger let alone give any grace....
However, since it could happen to anybody, I'd go with folks in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
better yet, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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