SA 777 Stall on Departure?
11-18-2020, 07:45 AM
#2
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This incident has been submitted to Southern’s ASAP and should probably remain there until all the facts are known. Please respect the ASAP process as I’m sure you would wish if you were involved.
11-18-2020, 07:54 AM
#3
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
This incident has been submitted to Southern’s ASAP and should probably remain there until all the facts are known. Please respect the ASAP process as I’m sure you would wish if you were involved.
11-18-2020, 08:33 AM
#4
Polyester Pilot
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
This incident has been submitted to Southern’s ASAP and should probably remain there until all the facts are known. Please respect the ASAP process as I’m sure you would wish if you were involved.
11-18-2020, 09:27 AM
#5
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Originally Posted by sky jet
While I would normally agree with you, the fact that at least two aviation web sites are reporting this incident means that the crew involved are probably in for a ton of scrutiny. IF, and I emphasize the IF, they made a mistake there is going to be extra pressure on the company when dealing with this due to its public nature.
11-18-2020, 03:35 PM
#6
The Fallen Cherub
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Originally Posted by maxjet
I will be happy if they did not make a mistake but don’t see how they didn’t at this point. Best case, either Autopilot was on and nobody was monitoring airspeed or it was off and pilot did a poor job of hand flying.
11-18-2020, 04:29 PM
#7
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
As they say, the Devil will be in the details. I’d expect this from a newbie coming to his first heavy from an RJ. Lots of them just don’t get the whole min clean speed being well above 250, even when under 10k. See it a lot in recent years.
11-19-2020, 02:12 AM
#9
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Gotta mind those FMAs.
My guess: Hand flying. Initial level off was 5000, they got cleared to 11,000 very close to level off. 5K was already captured and they were in VNAV ALT. Altitude window gets spun to 11,000 but knob is not pushed to command VNAV SPD and A/T to climb power. PF raises the nose to start the climb and gets slow.
My guess: Hand flying. Initial level off was 5000, they got cleared to 11,000 very close to level off. 5K was already captured and they were in VNAV ALT. Altitude window gets spun to 11,000 but knob is not pushed to command VNAV SPD and A/T to climb power. PF raises the nose to start the climb and gets slow.
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