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Old 04-21-2021, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NoJoy View Post
Yes it’s true. Fall if we are lucky. Could very well be next year spring.

It’s good some pilots are “optimistic”, but we also need to be realistic about the time frame.
I'll also back that up as an accurate synopsis.

Realistically, nothing before fall, and if history serves as any guide, it could likely slide into 2022.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:57 AM
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Going on two decades without being allowed to vote on a contract. Management graduated from the ‘Lucy with the Football’ school of business & have no intention of changing their ways. Just when you think they might finally be done delaying even a forced arbitration contract...they continue to dig deeper & find new ways to delay - while threatening to further delay even that. Remember, these guys even sued a widow of a dearly departed crew member. I don’t think even Lorenzo ever stooped that low.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:01 PM
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Atlas is 3.5 times bigger than Southern, surely their leadership won't survive any elections now that the two are in the same local. This can't do well for future animosity.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:19 PM
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Union participation is really low in elections most of the time, if they had a concerted effort they could probably make something happen but them's the breaks.
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Old 04-28-2021, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus View Post
Union participation is really low in elections most of the time, if they had a concerted effort they could probably make something happen but them's the breaks.
The outcome of the elections isn’t the concern. The soon to be 2750 Southern pilots just want to be able to participate in the upcoming nominations and election. Hopefully as one big family ((Atlas/Southern pilots) we can collectively elect solid leaders that will take us into the future.
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Old 04-28-2021, 04:31 PM
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I tell you what, this is good move for both groups.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
I used to be at Xjt and it was cool but after being burned once its hard to remember that life. I think Atlas might be a good spot to settle if able to get in to the pool. I’ve been informed that not all schedules in the fleet are 17 on and 14 off. The 767 seems interesting. The pay sounds pretty good too
I am ORD based 747. My next trip is 4 days. The one after that is 7. My last trip was 13 days. 6-16 days is normal for ORD. I do a 17 day pattern about once every 4 months...
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Old 05-01-2021, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
I used to be at Xjt and it was cool but after being burned once its hard to remember that life. I think Atlas might be a good spot to settle if able to get in to the pool. I’ve been informed that not all schedules in the fleet are 17 on and 14 off. The 767 seems interesting. The pay sounds pretty good too
This correct if you are bidding 60-day lines which seems to be the norm now days with a few 30 day lines sprinkled into the bid package. 30 day lines tend to have closer to 16-17 days on.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
Atlas is 3.5 times bigger than Southern, surely their leadership won't survive any elections now that the two are in the same local. This can't do well for future animosity.
70% of the Southern list has been hired since the acquisition. They’ve always been ‘Atlas.’
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Old 05-02-2021, 10:08 AM
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70% of the Southern list has been hired since the acquisition. They’ve always been ‘Atlas.’
I bet that most of the Atlas list has been hired since the announcement of the acquisition too. It's been 5 years and change.
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