Atlas Air CBA Showdown: 2021 Edition
#21
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But this is arbitration, meaning kind of like a court proceeding, where the arbitrator at the end makes a decision imposing a contract, rather than mediation, where the mediator gathers the opposing sides in a room and works with them to come to an agreement. So although there's always the opportunity for the parties to reach an agreement during the arbitration, that's not the goal of the proceeding. The proceeding presupposes that the parties will not be able to come to an agreement on their own, with or without a mediator's help, and that instead the arbitrator has to step in, and, based on the evidence, impose a contract.
in short, the two week schedule is a period in which both sides will be presenting their case, rather than negotiating per se.
in short, the two week schedule is a period in which both sides will be presenting their case, rather than negotiating per se.
#22
I heard that the typical max time for the Arbiter to rule in the Atlas Air case would be for the March hearings to result in a ruling by the end of August, as the latest. There is no technical timetable-like a required date for the arbiter to rule, but they have many cases, so they can't take forever...
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The only people who know how things are going are those sitting at the [virtual] table.
The fact is, the union completed their presentation this week. Now it's the company's turn to make their case. That's how arbitration works, both sides get to make their case.
So, any conclusion thus far is premature. And something tells me Mr Whitaker might know a thing or two about premature problems.
The fact is, the union completed their presentation this week. Now it's the company's turn to make their case. That's how arbitration works, both sides get to make their case.
So, any conclusion thus far is premature. And something tells me Mr Whitaker might know a thing or two about premature problems.
#29
The only people who know how things are going are those sitting at the [virtual] table.
The fact is, the union completed their presentation this week. Now it's the company's turn to make their case. That's how arbitration works, both sides get to make their case.
So, any conclusion thus far is premature. And something tells me Mr Whitaker might know a thing or two about premature problems.
The fact is, the union completed their presentation this week. Now it's the company's turn to make their case. That's how arbitration works, both sides get to make their case.
So, any conclusion thus far is premature. And something tells me Mr Whitaker might know a thing or two about premature problems.
#30
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A similar level of maturity to 2750 showing up with 20+ people to the virtual arbitration, some using fake names in an attempt humor while we watch our chance at a good contract go down the tubes. I’m sure the arbitrator was amused at the lack of professionalism. 2750 already negotiated their 105 hr guarantee for the union elite, why should they care anyway.
I mean, you're such a company guy, the arbitration route was the best way to go for people like you. Why knock it so hard now?
But if you're miserable now, just wait a few more months when you're sending your dues to 2750. It just gets better.
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