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Old 09-13-2021, 04:28 PM
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New hires is 24 months, isn't it?
Turns out you were correct. Thanks for calling me out on it.

FYI, I found that information on the “exhibits” PDF that was linked right below the arbitrator award in the email from 2750 on Friday. It was on page 293.
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Originally Posted by HPIC View Post
Turns out you were correct. Thanks for calling me out on it.

FYI, I found that information on the “exhibits” PDF that was linked right below the arbitrator award in the email from 2750 on Friday. It was on page 293.
I was gonna tell you the page number as well. Still wonder how the training department is going to deal with all the potential fleet transfers. I guess they'll limit movement somehow.
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:27 PM
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I was gonna tell you the page number as well. Still wonder how the training department is going to deal with all the potential fleet transfers. I guess they'll limit movement somehow.
My guess….and only a guess…is that JD will refuse to honor the shorter seat lock times for 9-12 months. He will argue that the training department won’t be able to handle the fleet transfers that would come with probably close to half of the currently seat locked pilots coming off seat lock all at once. The union will disagree, it will go to the arbitrator, and the arbitrator will give JD whatever he wants. The arbitrator has already proven he’s JD’s whipping boy, so I don’t expect that to change.

It’s going to be chaos no matter what. I know of a few LCA that are seriously considering resigning from their LCA position and just go back to flying the line. Being an LCA here gives you a 10% pay bump….which is pathetic and not worth the risks involved.
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Old 09-13-2021, 06:18 PM
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My guess….and only a guess…is that JD will refuse to honor the shorter seat lock times for 9-12 months. He will argue that the training department won’t be able to handle the fleet transfers that would come with probably close to half of the currently seat locked pilots coming off seat lock all at once. The union will disagree, it will go to the arbitrator, and the arbitrator will give JD whatever he wants. The arbitrator has already proven he’s JD’s whipping boy, so I don’t expect that to change.

It’s going to be chaos no matter what. I know of a few LCA that are seriously considering resigning from their LCA position and just go back to flying the line. Being an LCA here gives you a 10% pay bump….which is pathetic and not worth the risks involved.
You gotta love this guy huh? Well I sure hope he doesn't do it, that would **** me off a lot.

All these threads talking about single pilot long haul and automatisms.....I always said no way!, but this JD would freaking love getting rid of pilots.
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Old 09-13-2021, 06:40 PM
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You gotta love this guy huh? Well I sure hope he doesn't do it, that would **** me off a lot.

All these threads talking about single pilot long haul and automatisms.....I always said no way!, but this JD would freaking love getting rid of pilots.
Oh you are not wrong, maybe he's at the top of the list, but Fred Smith's investment for over a decade are astronomical compared to wishes of JD... it would cost $ initially so it will take time if you get my drift. Don't think for a sec that no other outfit owner/CEO, etc. is watching closely for a breakthrough of any type.
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You gotta love this guy huh? Well I sure hope he doesn't do it, that would **** me off a lot.

All these threads talking about single pilot long haul and automatisms.....I always said no way!, but this JD would freaking love getting rid of pilots.
JD would LOVE to get rid of ALL pilots tomorrow. Without a doubt. Single pilot…in the equipment we operate…is not viable. It would cost more than several decades of pilot salaries to retrofit these airplanes with equipment (that does not yet exist) in order to allow the aircraft to be remotely piloted from the ground in the event of a pilot incapacitation in a single pilot plane.

Add to that the fact that the workload can be extremely high for two pilots when things go wrong and single pilot ops in these aircraft is a non starter. Maybe down the road in aircraft specifically designed for single pilot ops…but not our current fleet.

There are simple things that are difficult in single pilot ops. Try reaching the gear handle from the left seat while hand flying on a V1 cut…it’s not easy.
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Totally agree, hence when I said “get my drift” = it’s expensive and we’re too cheap. Real issue is long haul 4 Pilots down to 2. Still investment required but that will happen way sooner than any single pilot ops mentioned. Cathay and some European outfit started pressing forward/focusing on this a few months ago. Baby Steps, but when proven, the pile on won’t be long.

*I think they already have the shock color proven/tested for the awake pilot, stay awake dammit. ZaaaaPoW!!!
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JD would LOVE to get rid of ALL pilots tomorrow.
Of course that’s true. He’ll take all the $$$ he saved on this CBA and throw it into pilotless technology.

He’s a greed-obsessed lawyer who runs a company. When seen through this lens, all of his actions are 100% predictable.

The union’s current effort to shift all blame to Dietrich is merely a deflection tactic to cover up the face that good ol’ Bob Henderson was pretty much right all along.

Colossal union failure.
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Of course that’s true. He’ll take all the $$$ he saved on this CBA and throw it into pilotless technology.

He’s a greed-obsessed lawyer who runs a company. When seen through this lens, all of his actions are 100% predictable.

The union’s current effort to shift all blame to Dietrich is merely a deflection tactic to cover up the face that good ol’ Bob Henderson was pretty much right all along.

Colossal union failure.
Bobb would certainly know a union failure when he sees one. He's a walking talking living example of failing his crew members. AS IF he would fared any better against the company. He had his chance nearly 20 years ago.
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Originally Posted by JT8D View Post
Of course that’s true. He’ll take all the $$$ he saved on this CBA and throw it into pilotless technology.

He’s a greed-obsessed lawyer who runs a company. When seen through this lens, all of his actions are 100% predictable.

The union’s current effort to shift all blame to Dietrich is merely a deflection tactic to cover up the face that good ol’ Bob Henderson was pretty much right all along.

Colossal union failure.
Ah, ok…I get it…You’re a Bobb Boy! ‘Nuff said.
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