RyeMex

Congratulations on having options. It’s a good position to be in. I would ask, what is your long-term plan? Is your desire to remain at either company for the long haul? If so, there’s your answer. If you plan / hope to get on with a legacy pax or cargo carrier, I suspect that the 121 time would be advantageous.

Speaking as someone who came to Atlas with a part 135 background (albeit in cargo), I can confidently say that I have never regretted the move. I also know several others who came to Atlas from 135 pax operations, all of whom have stated to me that they much prefer Atlas to their prior gigs.

C17B74

Lifestyle is key. International vs Domestic (or predominantly domestic), catering to the rich, boring boxes that I don’t have to load at least. Better schedules is purely in the eye of the beholder. Arrive at plane, check catering (not rich people food), once at cruise it’s comfort wear and split work (unless 2 pilot), land and off to hotel for a German Brew, Chuhai, etc and local feed bag. Plenty of corporate folks enjoying it here. TOTALLY different lifestyles between the two. To each their own and wish you the best in your decision, it’s all about you!

Swakid8

Thank you!

HPIC

Augmented rest doesn’t matter and it doesn’t automatically mean you can go home. 48 hours free of duty is the language. It doesn’t matter if it’s augmented rest or just a planned layover with at least 48 hours from duty off to duty on.

You will not lose CRT for going home during a layover period that meets the criteria above. CRT continues, perdiem stops. Well, in theory perdiem stops but in my case I have never seen it stop when I used the 48 hour rule to have them airline me home for it. I assume the system they use isn’t capable of breaking that out and it would have to be done manually…but that’s just a guess.

Swakid8

The only time I’ve definitely had 48 hours free of duty is hitting ANC mid pattern after the standard ICN-China/HKG-ANC runs for augmented rest (yes I am base in ANC). I am sure is the same deal for folks hitting their bases mid-pattern depending on the leg leading up to hitting base. But yes, 48 hours the contract language. I didn’t have the contract on me when I responded earlier.

Peabody17

I can’t speak directly as I’ve never worked for Atlas, but I had a classmate at NetJets Indoc who had left Atlas, and was very glad he made the move. FWIW

thepotato232

You'd probably be well-served to post a similar question in the Netjets subforum, as I doubt there's a whole lot of browsing overlap between the two spots. I know (broadly) happy people at both places.

dera

I honestly can't think of a bigger apples to oranges situation than Atlas v. NetJets.

I would never want to take a paycut and fly a Phenom or whatever on a 8/6 or whatever schedules they have.
But that does not mean it's a bad company, not at all. I know people there who love it. And would hate Atlas. Just that it is not for me. Completely different lifestyle.

TiredSoul

I’m curious why you applied at these two companies that are at opposite sides of the spectrum and now you ask which one?
Did you think this through or just hit ‘send’ on the application?
NetJets upgrade time runs in the double digits.

jrmyl

I have done both. I was at NJA back in 08-10 when I was part of the furlough. I am now at Atlas after spending 10 years over seas.

In my view, the biggest difference is the schedules. Atlas schedules allow for more time on overnights, but you fly really long flights if you are on the 777/747. NJA, shorter flights but from what I hear now, the overnights are minimum rest for most of the time.

Upgrades. If I was at NJA I would still be an FO with over 13 years of service. At Atlas, I am looking at around 5 years for upgrade if I stay here.

Work day. At NJA you work your butt off to get the plane ready to go. Stocking the catering, ice, papers, cleaning, etc. etc. Atlas, show up, preflight and get ready to go.

Company. Both have had a tenacious labor/management relationship. I feel that NJA is probably in a better spot now than Atlas. However, I"m not there so can't be for sure on NJA. The office people I have interacted with at Atlas have all been really nice. I didn't have that feeling at NJA when I was there.

Airplanes. Atlas has some old planes, and they break. Sometimes a lot. At NJA you would have a broken plane but it would normally get fixed quicker.

Clients. Never had any problems with any owners at NJA. All were nice and cordial. But at Atlas, 99% of your flying is boxes. Boxes don't complain and don't care about turbulence.

Pay. First year at Atlas is now 64 hour guarantee at $117/hr. Not too bad. NJA is around 60-80,000 depending on what schedule you are on.

As far as where you should go, that is something that only you can decide. Me personally, I'm glad I'm not at NJA any longer. I like flying Boeings and boxes.