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03-12-2015, 09:53 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Both ARE very senior. The guy who made the most about $230k, normally works about 9 days/month. He doesn't outbase or work any overtime.
Even if true, those guys are outliers and not representative of what the vast majority of FOs can even come close to making.
03-12-2015, 01:14 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
What do you work rules say about pay for picking up open time? 150%?
03-12-2015, 04:26 PM
#45
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Position: 747
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230k a year divided by 146 an hour equals 1575 credit hours a year. That's 131 credit hours a month.
131 hours minus min guarantee of 62 equals about 69 hours.
69 hours divided by 10.85 (4.85 MCPD + 6 the hour VX override) is 6.38 days of VX flying over and above min guarantee every month.
Call it 8 days because the first two days of VX are only worth 6.85 and 8.85.
It's possible he didn't take vacation in 2013 and was paid an extra 51 hours for two weeks or 76.65 hours for three weeks of unused vacation so the overtime could be a day or so less.
Most lines seem to be around 70 hours which would bring your required VX days below 6 each month.
70 MCPD hours is about 15 days a month. That plus the extra 6 would mean working 21 days every month - but all that requires getting the VX days you want every month all year. Training and other screw scheduling surprises will eat into that, but over 200k for a senior FO does seem very doable.
In theory, if you were awarded an out base every month all year (aside from the fact that you would NEVER be home) and averaged 146 hours hours a month, you would bring home almost 256k.
All that said, with a little overtime, a pilot in their third year would make about 120k.
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131 hours minus min guarantee of 62 equals about 69 hours.
69 hours divided by 10.85 (4.85 MCPD + 6 the hour VX override) is 6.38 days of VX flying over and above min guarantee every month.
Call it 8 days because the first two days of VX are only worth 6.85 and 8.85.
It's possible he didn't take vacation in 2013 and was paid an extra 51 hours for two weeks or 76.65 hours for three weeks of unused vacation so the overtime could be a day or so less.
Most lines seem to be around 70 hours which would bring your required VX days below 6 each month.
70 MCPD hours is about 15 days a month. That plus the extra 6 would mean working 21 days every month - but all that requires getting the VX days you want every month all year. Training and other screw scheduling surprises will eat into that, but over 200k for a senior FO does seem very doable.
In theory, if you were awarded an out base every month all year (aside from the fact that you would NEVER be home) and averaged 146 hours hours a month, you would bring home almost 256k.
All that said, with a little overtime, a pilot in their third year would make about 120k.
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03-14-2015, 07:57 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by captainv
you get 4.85 hours of credit per full day (standard pay), plus a 2-hour override on day 1, 4 hours on day 2, and 6 hours each day thereafter.
03-14-2015, 10:06 PM
#49
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The 747 FO that did $210,000 last year lives at CVG. There were two months he "worked" everyday of the month but was home for 10 days. He also did a couple outbases. He is very senior and picks up a lot of open time.
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