TiredSoul

I initially used a dirty word but lets give this a swing.
If….and that’s a big IF they will be as successful as Jetblue you’d be better off taking Breeze. However, that will be “regional” style flying for maybe the first 8-12 years.
Atlas will get you long haul International on day #1 if you get on the 74 or 77.
How many years you have to go?
If it’s 40 years then maybe Breeze is a better long term investment in yourself.
What style suits you better?
If you’re looking for a shorter term gig 3-5 years then move on I’d go Atlas.

boeingdvr

Long haul international. Haha. That cracks me up. Let’s just call it what it is. A 17 day beat down filled with min rest and being married to the jet.

The 777 essentially is blocking nearly 100 a month, filled with 20 hour days all over the place.

Yes I know- but we have a bunk, and I get paid to watch Netflix.

Let’s be honest, the way we run our schedules these guys and gals are truly getting beat up.

Hope there is a ittle relief in the next CBA, but I think we know how that will go.

WhipWhitaker

I’m blocking 45 hrs this month on the 777, and crediting 72. If you think this job is tough, I can introduce you to some people who actually work for a living. I’d tell you to quit, but you don’t even work for Southern.

Atlas Shrugged

Well, change is coming one way or another. I certainly don't expect to get everything we want, but there are significant changes to the way the RIG and patterns are handled for pay that are positive.

One of the most glaring issues is that currently, you can be forced to gateway to your base up to 24 hours in advance, and then the trip can delay for day or so and you are still not on the clock.

boeingdvr

Right. That’s not normal and we both know it. 90% of bid lines are 90+ hours block hours. CVG-ICN, for life. A whole 72 hours to fly a 777 around the world ? You’re giving away 400-450 hours of your time to make 72


Mesa airlines gets 76 hours to do hub turns from DFW-AMA.

C17B74

True....Very True, but sometimes you can tweak out a deal when you see the first “scheduled” (I say that lightly) flight on a delay well ahead of your projected departure and leave on day 1 or even 2. I know you lose some opportunities but you work it to your advantage when able (very limited).

On the other hand you can casually arrive at your base strolling thru the Airport before heading to the hotel and the phone lights up. Answer or not hmmmm, but sometimes Bam, now your Business class to XXXX for the next 8hrs clocks ticking however so slowly/33% but chilling out. Yes, screw sessions run rampant out there but there are chinks in the armor. I know, not our job like many things but being that slippery eel is advantageous.

*If your are adverse to “change” and need a solid schedule, do NOT come here as we pop up as a synonym....

Globemaster2827

This would be the first I've heard of any real significant gains in your work rules. I'm expecting your rate to be better but everything else that has a monetary value to be close to current book. Hopefully I'm wrong but the people in the know who I talk to are less positive.

C17B74

Not arguing at all. Hub turns on anything paid well or not is a quick trip to H E double hockey stick designed for Satan himself to get a quicker hold on me. I guess lackadaisical is me...Lifestyle of course, not professionally although some might argue that point

WhipWhitaker

Lol, I am making over $100 an hour MORE than anyone at mesa with my seniority, and spending just under 190 hours away from my house. I’m sure mesa would be happy to have you, but you won’t leave.

Swakid8

Mesa? I mean use a better example like AA, Fed Ex. Mesa guys were relying on flying on their days off for triple premium in order to make pull a similar amount of money as a WB FO here at Atlas flying min guarantee.......