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Old 07-20-2021, 12:12 PM
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Just curious what type of pay is Atlas Pilots expecting (in the neighborhood of)? Kalitta or Purple?
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Old 07-20-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex11incheSteel View Post
Just curious what type of pay is Atlas Pilots expecting (in the neighborhood of)? Kalitta or Purple?
1 of 3 options

1) Kalitta (worst case scenario base on the company proposal
2) Between Kalitta and Purple/UPS (wouldn’t surprise me if we landed here).
3 Purple/UPS (wishful thinking but a possibility)

Expecting a decision in September if it doesn’t get get delayed even more, but it is possible based on the circumstances beyond the 3 parties control that led to the month delay from August to September.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
1 of 3 options

1) Kalitta (worst case scenario base on the company proposal
2) Between Kalitta and Purple/UPS (wouldn’t surprise me if we landed here).
3 Purple/UPS (wishful thinking but a possibility)

Expecting a decision in September if it doesn’t get get delayed even more, but it is possible based on the circumstances beyond the 3 parties control that led to the month delay from August to September.
That's great news!
On 1/1/22 Kalitta's 767 12 yr CA rate will be $300.78 and Fedex's will be $326

If you guys anywhere in that range it will be well received I'm sure
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed View Post
That's great news!
On 1/1/22 Kalitta's 767 12 yr CA rate will be $300.78 and Fedex's will be $326

If you guys anywhere in that range it will be well received I'm sure
The company proposed rates for 767 12 year on 1/1/2022 show $285 @ 64 hours guarantee. If that’s the baseline, then it’s a good start. FedEx of course has leaps of other benefits and pay to take into account besides straight hourly so even if we get close here, it’s not that close.
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Old 07-21-2021, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Setspeed View Post
The company proposed rates for 767 12 year on 1/1/2022 show $285 @ 64 hours guarantee. If that’s the baseline, then it’s a good start.
I wouldn’t characterize pay rates below what Kalitta currently has on the 767 and 777 a good start. The company’s proposal, if taken in whole, puts us significantly behind Kalitta, whose contract was negotiated several years ago. Don’t bet on anything above the company proposal from the arbitrator and plan accordingly. We’re about to get bent over.
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Old 07-21-2021, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate2046 View Post
I wouldn’t characterize pay rates below what Kalitta currently has on the 767 and 777 a good start. The company’s proposal, if taken in whole, puts us significantly behind Kalitta, whose contract was negotiated several years ago. Don’t bet on anything above the company proposal from the arbitrator and plan accordingly. We’re about to get bent over.
I should’ve said it’s a significant raise from current as opposed to a good start because you’re absolutely right.
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:58 PM
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We all have our basic rate numbers in our heads and we’ll see something on the upside, hopefully it meets your needs, maybe your known expectations, but most likely will not create any wow factor which is a known factor. Everyone would like to be pleasantly surprised. Just curious on what might have lost with the upcoming new. Won’t know til the ink dries.
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Old 07-22-2021, 03:59 PM
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Hypothetical not so hypothetical questions about Atlas hiring -

Say a pilot flying 135 jet was approaching 1500tt with 500 sic jet turbine - if that pilot were to acquire their ATP written, would they have any shot at getting hired into the WB fleet?

Hypothetical of course
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Old 07-22-2021, 04:46 PM
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Hypothetical not so hypothetical questions about Atlas hiring -

Say a pilot flying 135 jet was approaching 1500tt with 500 sic jet turbine - if that pilot were to acquire their ATP written, would they have any shot at getting hired into the WB fleet?

Hypothetical of course
Maybe, apply. The worst they will offer you is the 737 if you do not have your ATP and 121 time. For a minute that’s where they were sticking guys without much jet/low TT without their ATPs.
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Old 07-22-2021, 05:36 PM
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Maybe, apply. The worst they will offer you is the 737 if you do not have your ATP and 121 time. For a minute that’s where they were sticking guys without much jet/low TT without their ATPs.
Thanks for the reply. Already applied to both the WB and Pathway openings, just trying to sort out my odds. Thanks again!
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