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Old 08-04-2021, 03:33 PM
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yehiel1992 View Post
Hey guys,

Regional airline captain here with 3200 TT and 550 Turbine PIC.

I just finished my Interview with Atlas, which went very well and I am waiting for an answer. I am also waiting on an interview with Allegiant.

I am kind of at a crossroads right now and I am curious what you guys would have done if you were in my shoes.

Stay in my regional airline until I get 1000 Turbine PIC time and in the meantime try applying for other airlines, or go with Atlas, or go with Allegiant (assuming I pass the interview)?

My career goal is to be at a legacy airline, or LLC, or cargo. I would like to live in Florida in base or be home-based in Florida.
Get 1000 TPIC, then consider your next move. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by yehiel1992 View Post
Hey guys,

Regional airline captain here with 3200 TT and 550 Turbine PIC.

I just finished my Interview with Atlas, which went very well and I am waiting for an answer. I am also waiting on an interview with Allegiant.

I am kind of at a crossroads right now and I am curious what you guys would have done if you were in my shoes.

Stay in my regional airline until I get 1000 Turbine PIC time and in the meantime try applying for other airlines, or go with Atlas, or go with Allegiant (assuming I pass the interview)?

My career goal is to be at a legacy airline, or LLC, or cargo. I would like to live in Florida in base or be home-based in Florida.
That’s not an easy decision. Your pay will immediately be better at Atlas or Allegiant (after training pay). Once the new CBA is implemented your pay will be way better than left seat regional. Depending on your airframe, QOL can be much better. At Allegiant you probably have to live in base to have a decent QOL.

Seek advice from those you trust, your family, mentors and make a decision that works for you and your situation and one that aligns with your goals.
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360 View Post
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Seek advice from those you trust, your family, mentors and make a decision that works for you and your situation and one that aligns with your goals.
This is good advice. We offer advice for all kinds of reasons, but all of those reasons mean our advice carries some kind of bias. Maybe we want to confirm our own decision-making. Maybe we want to warn you off from mistakes we've made and inadvertently guide you into a path that's not best. Figure out what's important to you, and make your professional situation support your personal goals. I know that's vague and not helpful. Ideally we could say "Go here. Don't go there. Wait six years. Then do step 9.". I don't think any of us have sufficient insight to provide that kind of guidance.
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:06 PM
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Do you like to fly fatigued all the time? Then ATLAS is your place. Do you like being at home? Then Allegiant is your place.
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:24 PM
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Do you like to fly fatigued all the time? Then ATLAS is your place. Do you like being at home? Then Allegiant is your place.
Are you flying fatigued?
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Old 08-05-2021, 03:54 PM
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Are you flying fatigued?
It's a valid point, even if exaggerated. The nature of the flying is ripe for fatigue. There's no way around it. Obviously we do what we can to mitigate, but it's rare to be woken up from the bunk on a multi-leg, 18 hour, back side of the clock flight and feel as fresh as you would coming from an 18 hour domestic overnight (and on a 3 or 4 day trip instead of 10-17 day). Dealing with fatigue is basically part of the job description here.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBlue025 View Post
It's a valid point, even if exaggerated. The nature of the flying is ripe for fatigue. There's no way around it. Obviously we do what we can to mitigate, but it's rare to be woken up from the bunk on a multi-leg, 18 hour, back side of the clock flight and feel as fresh as you would coming from an 18 hour domestic overnight (and on a 3 or 4 day trip instead of 10-17 day). Dealing with fatigue is basically part of the job description here.
Absolutely, I fully understand your explanation. It's just the way the other statement sounded.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBlue025 View Post
It's a valid point, even if exaggerated. The nature of the flying is ripe for fatigue. There's no way around it. Obviously we do what we can to mitigate, but it's rare to be woken up from the bunk on a multi-leg, 18 hour, back side of the clock flight and feel as fresh as you would coming from an 18 hour domestic overnight (and on a 3 or 4 day trip instead of 10-17 day). Dealing with fatigue is basically part of the job description here.
‘How common are 18 hour overnights domestically at the regionals, most of my layovers averages about 11-13 hours with 3-4 legs on a 3 to 4 day trip. That has its own set of challenges as well with fatigue.
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
‘How common are 18 hour overnights domestically at the regionals, most of my layovers averages about 11-13 hours with 3-4 legs on a 3 to 4 day trip. That has its own set of challenges as well with fatigue.

With respect, the big factor is the multi time zone compiled on-top of the long duty day. Absolute respect for the domestic fatigue but the jet lag means you start your day feeling like you just got hit with a wet sack of potatoes as you roll out of bed.
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