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Old 09-12-2021, 11:04 AM
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I'm sure this has already been posted, but here are the new pay scales for those interested: https://www.airlinepilotcareers.com/atlas-southern.
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Old 09-12-2021, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Are you sure it was union leadership driving people away or was it simply the free market of labor? I would've been top 15 on Atlas's list but I left making the assertion that by the time Atlas had a new contract that I'd be a CA at FedEx. I was off by about 6 months. So the decision was the correct one as by my calculations and my quality of life is much better living in base for Purple. I bet more than 1000 of us made that bet and will ultimately win. So was it a strategy by the union to drive us away or was it just in our best interest to leave? One friend from Atlas now here at FedEx is in CA upgrade class for the MD-11! I'm now gone from home maybe half of what I was. The union did educate us on what we were worth and looking at other contracts we made simple decisions about our careers.
To clarify, 757 Capt in base at MEM or Capt upgrade in 6 months, hub turn out and backs mostly with a few overnights correct? Definitely a seller or “Winning” as you mentioned and that’s good stuff for anyone wanting the stability of a great gig with those parameters. There are many who would enjoy your Purple gig and I wish them going forward the best. Just selling it for you specifically and you definitely had too much time remaining on your lifespan as best we know to stay here. Makes total sense. Please correct me if any assumptions are wrong.

*Good move on getting on with Purple before the Brown pool called. Well done Good Sir a great fit for you! I am being truthful, well done “P”.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
All the 74 examples you mentioned had a 20 year Captain on the helm.
FYI the majority of 3 and 4 digit PIC’s are a pain in the @ss to work with as you have to tippy-toe around all their pet peeves.
As I stated, “fairly experienced crews”. I didn’t break it down by seat…just kind of spit balled it for the crew as a whole. I’m familiar with all the people involved in each situation I mentioned except for the near midair with LH near LAX…that was before my time.

I’m also aware of what it’s like dealing with very senior Captains…many of whom upgraded in under a year(“on the classic”) and have been in that seat now for 15-20 years.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nikle994 View Post
I'm sure this has already been posted, but here are the new pay scales for those interested: https://www.airlinepilotcareers.com/atlas-southern.
I looked at it…but I stopped reading when I saw that 2 of the bases they list have been closed for a long time…and they don’t list 2 other bases that we have…they’re not exactly up to date.

Pay scales may or may not be correct…I didn’t get that far.
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Old 09-12-2021, 11:48 PM
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Wish HSV were back in play like the map had on the site, dang it. Pay scales seem accurate.
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:08 AM
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Do Atlas pilots get a discount at Crew Outfitters? I was going to buy a bag from there and I saw they had a section for Atlas employees that I can't access yet.
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Old 09-13-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt View Post
Do Atlas pilots get a discount at Crew Outfitters? I was going to buy a bag from there and I saw they had a section for Atlas employees that I can't access yet.
Yes we do, just wait until training to get your bag. There’s a local Crew Outfitters in Miami down the street from the training center.
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Old 09-13-2021, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
Yes we do, just wait until training to get your bag. There’s a local Crew Outfitters in Miami down the street from the training center.
Cool, thanks.
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:11 PM
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So, looking for opinions on my situation. I have accepted a FO position at Atlas and have a class date in a few weeks. But yesterday I got the invite from Delta to take the cog test as a precursor to interview. I’m wondering what the best path forward is. Pretty sure that I’d rather be at Delta long-term, especially considering the latest contract shenanigans at Atlas. But I doubt if I’d get through the interview process and get a CJO from Delta before my Atlas start date. Should I proceed to training at Atlas and try to work around my training schedule for a potential Delta interview? If I get hired while in Atlas training, do I complete training? I keep thinking of the old saying 1 in hand is better than 2 in the bush…


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Old 09-14-2021, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by IFlyHeavies View Post
So, looking for opinions on my situation. I have accepted a FO position at Atlas and have a class date in a few weeks. But yesterday I got the invite from Delta to take the cog test as a precursor to interview. I’m wondering what the best path forward is. Pretty sure that I’d rather be at Delta long-term, especially considering the latest contract shenanigans at Atlas. But I doubt if I’d get through the interview process and get a CJO from Delta before my Atlas start date. Should I proceed to training at Atlas and try to work around my training schedule for a potential Delta interview? If I get hired while in Atlas training, do I complete training? I keep thinking of the old saying 1 in hand is better than 2 in the bush…


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Take the class with Atlas. Work around the training to do a Delta interview if it’s offered. Call out sick if necessary. If you are offered a class with Delta…take the first available. Don’t worry about finishing training at Atlas.

Atlas management doesn’t care about you, your family, your career…..take the job at Atlas to keep you current until you have a better offer…then leave. None of us line pilots will have any hard feelings…and management won’t even notice. You’re just a number on a spreadsheet to them.

Edit to add: Don’t post anything that would make you easily identifiable. Management monitors message forums(or, at least, they did during negotiations)…so don’t give them any ammo to act a fool against you.
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