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07-26-2014, 10:32 AM

#9081

tunes

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is the applicant pool really large?
Prior C5 IP, 2200 TT with 1k PIC. applied in May and haven't heard a peep.

07-26-2014, 10:39 AM

#9082

SVA402

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunes

is the applicant pool really large?
Prior C5 IP, 2200 TT with 1k PIC. applied in May and haven't heard a peep.

Yes. I would say your chances are good with your qualifications but people have applied for years before getting the call. Internal recommendations seem to help as well.

07-26-2014, 10:55 AM

#9083

tunes

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Originally Posted by SVA402

Yes. I would say your chances are good with your qualifications but people have applied for years before getting the call. Internal recommendations seem to help as well.

had 1 and put it on the PAQ

07-26-2014, 11:04 AM

#9084

NightIP

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Originally Posted by tunes

had 1 and put it on the PAQ

Make sure your rec goes into Crew Corner and follows the directions for submitting a recommendation. It'll be on the left side under "Recommend a New Crewmember."

07-26-2014, 11:17 AM

#9085

CandlerKid

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New seniority list out. Roughly the same amount of pilots. Currently a 9 year upgrade...

07-26-2014, 11:34 AM

#9086

NightIP

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Originally Posted by CandlerKid

New seniority list out. Roughly the same amount of pilots. Currently a 9 year upgrade...

Meanwhile, I've moved up 43 numbers in 6 months... It would seem the major movement is on the FO side. Go figure.

07-26-2014, 12:10 PM

#9087

WTFover

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CandlerKid

New seniority list out. Roughly the same amount of pilots. Currently a 9 year upgrade...

The current 9 years to upgrade will certainly NOT apply moving forward unless there is significant expansion. The constant hiring over the last several years has been mostly folks at the younger end of the spectrum. A new hire now may not see upgrade for more than 15+ years, possibly significantly longer.

Of course, the attrition numbers to other carriers will have a big impact as well.

07-26-2014, 12:36 PM

#9088

NightIP

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Originally Posted by WTFover

I was actually going to say the opposite. That might be true if people were sticking around here as a career gig, but with the current movement, I don't see 15+ being accurate...

07-26-2014, 12:58 PM

#9089

744driver

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NightIP

I was actually going to say the opposite. That might be true if people were sticking around here as a career gig, but with the current movement, I don't see 15+ being accurate...

I agree...15+ years to upgrade is not likely, I think it'll be about half that.

07-26-2014, 01:42 PM

#9090

CandlerKid

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If every junior FO leaves it doesn't increase upgrade time. 1000 pilots now. 517 is the junior Captain. 30 retirements a year. I'm not good at math but that's a long time to upgrade. Assuming no growth of course.