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Old 05-28-2021, 06:37 AM
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So am I correct here: monthly training pay is 1600 + (24hrs x 4$ x days in the month)?

So your training pay ends up being a couple thousand a month in per diem on top of the 1600?
Correct.

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Old 05-28-2021, 06:46 AM
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Correct.

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Man that’s not too bad if you have a nest egg for until payroll catches up.

last question for a total newbie, what’s CRT? Crew reserve/training?
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Old 05-28-2021, 06:55 AM
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Man that’s not too bad if you have a nest egg for until payroll catches up.

last question for a total newbie, what’s CRT? Crew reserve/training?
CRT is rig that starts from duty in on day one and ends at duty out on your last day. 4.85 hours per day, prorated to Zulu time. So if you duty in at 1200z on day one, you only get half of the 4.85 for that day. Then you get 4.85 hours of pay per day until your last day, which is also prorated to Z time like on day one.
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Old 05-28-2021, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rolo View Post
So am I correct here: monthly training pay is 1600 + (24hrs x 4$ x days in the month)?

So your training pay ends up being a couple thousand a month in per diem on top of the 1600?
Affirmative while the COVID MOU is still in effect. It’s doable if you get into training soon.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:15 AM
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CRT is rig that starts from duty in on day one and ends at duty out on your last day. 4.85 hours per day, prorated to Zulu time. So if you duty in at 1200z on day one, you only get half of the 4.85 for that day. Then you get 4.85 hours of pay per day until your last day, which is also prorated to Z time like on day one.
I’m trying to piece together how CRT relates to your monthly minimum. I’d love if someone could correct where I’m wrong here:

CRT is a daily minimum of guaranteed pay hours while on duty that can be beaten if you happen to fly more than those hours. Typically you take the amount of days you’re on duty, prorate the beginning and end, then multiply it by the rate of 4.85. if your CRT for the month doesn’t add up to your monthly minimum you just get your monthly minimum.

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Old 05-28-2021, 10:21 AM
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I’m trying to piece together how CRT relates to your monthly minimum. I’d love if someone could correct where I’m wrong here:

CRT is a daily minimum of guaranteed pay hours while on duty that can be beaten if you happen to fly more than those hours. Typically you take the amount of days you’re on duty, prorate the beginning and end, then multiply it by the rate of 4.85. if your CRT for the month doesn’t add up to your monthly minimum you just get your monthly minimum.

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Sounds right to me. You take the highest of CRT, block, or your monthly minimum.

The 767 schedules will 99% of the time be paid at CRT. I believe the same for 737. The 747 and 777 have the potential to have block surpass CRT, but nothing is final until the month is over since we don't have any schedule change pay protection.
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Old 05-28-2021, 12:29 PM
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I’m trying to piece together how CRT relates to your monthly minimum. I’d love if someone could correct where I’m wrong here:

CRT is a daily minimum of guaranteed pay hours while on duty that can be beaten if you happen to fly more than those hours. Typically you take the amount of days you’re on duty, prorate the beginning and end, then multiply it by the rate of 4.85. if your CRT for the month doesn’t add up to your monthly minimum you just get your monthly minimum.

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Basically, your monthly pay is greatest of min guarantee, total CRT for the month, block time.
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Old 05-28-2021, 12:37 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for helping me learn.

Last question: knowing now that CRT is pretty typical over min. If I were banking on at least making 60k pre tax my first year, how likely would you say that is?
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I’m trying to piece together how CRT relates to your monthly minimum. I’d love if someone could correct where I’m wrong here:

CRT is a daily minimum of guaranteed pay hours while on duty that can be beaten if you happen to fly more than those hours. Typically you take the amount of days you’re on duty, prorate the beginning and end, then multiply it by the rate of 4.85. if your CRT for the month doesn’t add up to your monthly minimum you just get your monthly minimum.

AmI close?
Pretty much nailed it. Sick calls, recurrent training, and vacation throw a monkey wrench into it though. Sick hours are only used to make you whole to min guarantee. Training and vacation on days ON drop you down to guarantee as well.
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Old 05-28-2021, 12:43 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for helping me learn.

Last question: knowing now that CRT is pretty typical over min. If I were banking on at least making 60k pre tax my first year, how likely would you say that is?
It's not impossible. I was a February hire under the old pay rates, and made about $58k pretax my first year. Smart thing is to budget for min guarantee though.
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