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motorclutch 08-18-2017 04:49 AM

Except for Connie Kalitta.....most of these ACMI second tier management teams are rookies at best. Connie was vested in his company and knew what it took to succeed. These other scumbags could learn a few lessons from the master!

Boris Badenov 08-18-2017 08:27 AM

Truly epic stories. Fantastic! :D:D:D

FUPM 08-18-2017 12:48 PM

Fun filled 737 facts :
-When deadheading on company aircraft you will sit on a Flight Attendent jumpseat potentially all the way out to the west coast (bring a jacket a sleeping bag and camping pad).
-Crew meals are only on Denver and Salt Lake City segments.
-There are no coffee makers or drinks other then water (hot in the summer and cold in the winter).
-Deadhead pay is 50% of the scheDuled block time so if you sit on the ramp for an hour you won't be paid for any of it.

motorclutch 08-18-2017 12:53 PM

There are wys to change that

gringo 08-18-2017 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by FUPM (Post 2413051)
Fun filled 737 facts :
-When deadheading on company aircraft you will sit on a Flight Attendent jumpseat potentially all the way out to the west coast (bring a jacket a sleeping bag and camping pad).
-Crew meals are only on Denver and Salt Lake City segments.
-There are no coffee makers or drinks other then water (hot in the summer and cold in the winter).
-Deadhead pay is 50% of the scheDuled block time so if you sit on the ramp for an hour you won't be paid for any of it.

You sound just like one of those Prima Donnas that Birdbrain was talking about.

You didn't get the memo? Simply become a Senior Check Airman on the 777 and life at Suddern suddenly doesn't suck so much.

FUPM 08-19-2017 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2413064)
You sound just like one of those Prima Donnas that Birdbrain was talking about.

You didn't get the memo? Simply become a Senior Check Airman on the 777 and life at Suddern suddenly doesn't suck so much.

Not being a Prima Donna. Simply doing what I set out to do, inform potential new hires what they are getting into.

Birdsmash 08-19-2017 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2413064)
You sound just like one of those Prima Donnas that Birdbrain was talking about.

You didn't get the memo? Simply become a Senior Check Airman on the 777 and life at Suddern suddenly doesn't suck so much.

I see no reason for anybody to accept a 737 job at Southern unless someone is simply desperate for ANY flying job. There are much better jobs out there. You won't build many jet hours if that is your goal, you'll work the night sort which makes you old & grumpy, jumpseating to CVG sucks, you'll spend your own money on a crash pad or other lodging, upgrades have stalled so there's limited opportunity to upgrade and then move on to greener pastures, etc, etc.

I voted against the 737 LOA due to no home basing. With home basing the 737 program would've been tolerable. Without.....well I think that has been beaten like a dead horse on here.

And yes....if you are a prima donna, whined, need your hand held, can't fly....then don't apply to any ACMI carrier.

gringo 08-19-2017 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 2413501)
I see no reason for anybody to accept a 737 job at Southern unless someone is simply desperate for ANY flying job. There are much better jobs out there. You won't build many jet hours if that is your goal, you'll work the night sort which makes you old & grumpy, jumpseating to CVG sucks, you'll spend your own money on a crash pad or other lodging, upgrades have stalled so there's limited opportunity to upgrade and then move on to greener pastures, etc, etc.

I voted against the 737 LOA due to no home basing. With home basing the 737 program would've been tolerable. Without.....well I think that has been beaten like a dead horse on here.

And yes....if you are a prima donna, whined, need your hand held, can't fly....then don't apply to any ACMI carrier.

Welp, um... yeah. After all these years, all I can say is, crap. I got nuthin. Birdstrikes and I are in complete agreement on this one.

Hot damn. What's next???

David Puddy 08-19-2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by FUPM (Post 2413051)
Fun filled 737 facts :
-When deadheading on company aircraft you will sit on a Flight Attendent jumpseat potentially all the way out to the west coast (bring a jacket a sleeping bag and camping pad).
-Crew meals are only on Denver and Salt Lake City segments.
-There are no coffee makers or drinks other then water (hot in the summer and cold in the winter).
-Deadhead pay is 50% of the scheDuled block time so if you sit on the ramp for an hour you won't be paid for any of it.

FYI - Envoy is hiring.....

vroll1800 08-19-2017 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2413064)
You sound just like one of those Prima Donnas that Birdbrain was talking about.

You didn't get the memo? Simply become a Senior Check Airman on the 777 and life at Suddern suddenly doesn't suck so much.

Didn't you get the memo whereby all pilots have a Constitutional Right to complain about anything? This includes, but is not limited to late hotel vans, lousy layover hotels, lousy (or lack of) crew meals, undue delay at getting trip trade, trip drop, or open flying bid approved, schedule reassignment, how latest CBA (~70-85% yes votes) sucks, etc, etc, etc.

The latest round of shoot the messenger posts by seasoned ACMI pilots reminds me of an old traveling salesman stuck in the middle of nowhere story. Urban traveling salesman's car breaks down in the middle of nowhere. Farmer offers to let him stay the night in his house. Of course, house has no air conditioning, and is immediately downwind of animal barn. Salesman says "geez, this place smells like s#^t !" Farmer : "Huh, I don't know what you're talking about."


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