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wjcandee 08-18-2019 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2871947)
They can now buy anyone and everyone and merge the contracts, shift flying, whipsaw to their hearts contact.

I haven't looked at the provisions for a while, but isn't the fact that both carriers are represented by 1224 part of the reason they can do this? So that kind of narrows the field of who they could acquire to reproduce this result. Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely. Of course, with this management team, one does want as much protection as possible.

Jurassic Jet 08-18-2019 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2872020)
Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely.

Amerijet with its maxed out CA pay of $131k comes to mind.

boeingdvr 08-18-2019 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2872020)
I haven't looked at the provisions for a while, but isn't the fact that both carriers are represented by 1224 part of the reason they can do this? So that kind of narrows the field of who they could acquire to reproduce this result. Also, there aren't many carriers out there generally that they could acquire just to hold back the pilots, so it's a little more hypothetical than likely. Of course, with this management team, one does want as much protection as possible.

They only need one every 6-7 years. Thatís easy enough.

Iíd say we are two years away from a CBA. A new hire will never see -400 Captain, and upgrade on the 767 could be close to 10 years for a new hire today.

sandman22 08-18-2019 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2872033)
They only need one every 6-7 years. Thatís easy enough.

Airlines could be created solely for that purpose with the knowledge that Atlas would pay a premium for it at the right time. AAWH pilots will never vote on a contract.

JackStraw 08-18-2019 04:11 AM

Simple fix; an in-house union.

dynap09 08-18-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2872037)
Simple fix; an in-house union.

Too easy and way too much independence - the focus would just be on the contract etc vs some of the big picture ****ing matches / legal fees / dues up to both the national and the federal for political activities etc.

That said, I think even teamsters and SEIU might be looking to get back to more just plain worker organizing - I do wish 1224 would keep up their "annual" pay comparisons - or did I miss that somewhere?

No Land 3 08-18-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2872037)
Simple fix; an in-house union.

But... ??? Ah, never mind!

JackStraw 08-18-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2872148)
But... ??? Ah, never mind!

Youíre preaching to the choir, pal.

FlyJay 08-18-2019 09:38 AM

So would it be worth coming to Southern for the triple right now? Received an offer to interview...:confused:

CardboardCutout 08-18-2019 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 2872152)
So would it be worth coming to Southern for the triple right now? Received an offer to interview...:confused:

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