Body by Atlas- it’s not just a saying- it’s a lifestyle.

Oh- don’t forget your black jacket, dad jeans, tennis shoes, and aviators for those super chill mind numbing foggy layovers in ICN while you drink a salty beer and look at meat over a Charcoal stove-
all the while hearing about how our union ****ed us over. Don’t worry- it’s just day 1. 16 more to go. It’s cool, you’re a widebody Pilot, the big leagues. Now get some sleep- you’re going to need it for that 15 hour all nighter back to CVG ( day 2 )

I'm not Atlas but the last two are perfect for where I work.

The 74 and the 76 might as well be two different airlines where schedules are concerned.

74 tends to have lines where you do your 17 days all in one shot. 74 schedules change a lot after you leave home. There is a very good chance you will not fly the pattern you were awarded. That’s not necessarily a bad thing depending on your expectations. We are after all an ACMI. 76 offers more opportunities for a split line, granted you likely will need some seniority under your belt for that.

The pay is only the same across the board for the first year. View the pay scales on APC for differences after that.

There are some good posts about the differences between the 74 and the 76 very recently on this thread. I cannot personally speak for the 777 fleet.


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Ok... I'm going to say this ONE MORE FREAKING TIME... The head of the HR at Atlas (either on the phone with your or her subordinate) told the FAA that after reading hundreds... Maybe a thousand... Mesa training records, that she didn't know how to read a Mesa training record. The people who are calling you to offer you a job are LIARS. They tell more lies than military recruiters trying to get 18 year old kids into the military. LIARS.

You're doing the right thing by asking here, but to summarize... The HR department at Atlas consists of people who blatantly LIE.

To answer your question, you'll make by far the most on the 747 for numerous reasons. Work rules and pay rates are among them. Then the 777 and then the 767. On first year the RATE is the same, but only first year. You'll only see the first year rate for about 7 or 8 months. Then the 747 has a significantly higher rate... Probably $20-25k more annually. Due to work rules you'd make more on the 747, then the 777, and then the 767 even with the same rate for those 7 or 8 months.

None of what you’re saying about the work rules makes sense FYI.

Atlas varies WILDLY depending on which airframe, which base, where you live, and if you VX or not. I would definitely plan on min guarantee, and if you make more than that then u have extra money.

You can be home ALL the time at Atlas (live in CVG, fly the 767 (maybe 737???) on DHL/Amazon and bidding reserve. You can be home a LOT if you live in MIA, are based in MIA (747 only), and can hold the out and back flying. JFK, ANC and LAX you can be home more than other 747 bases.

I am on the 747. The last 12 months I checked (2018/19?...not exactly sure which months I looked at), I was home more than 15 days per month on average. I took all my vacation, basically no sick days, and worked a few extra days here and there. My shortest trip was 2 days, my longest around 17. I had a number of 3, 4, 5 day trips. My average trip was between 6-16 days. Some trips were all international. I had a period over the summer with about 3 trips in a row that were all domestic. I flew quite a few pax trips, usually in bunches together.

The main "normal" schedule on the 747 for me is it is always different than the last pattern...."Normally abnormal". For example: Last trip: Airline to YYZ. HNL SYD HKG ANC ORD ANC CHS ANC ORD ground transport home. I don't normally airline to/from YYZ, we normally don't operate in/out of YYZ, don't normally fly Canada-Australia charters, don't normally fly empty SYD-HKG, don't normally fly ANC-ORD and then immediately DH ORD-ANC, I don't normally ground home from ORD, etc. Also, the above pattern was about 2 weeks away from home. I now have about 2 weeks at home, then a pattern the last 10 days or so to the end of the month. Won't know my 1May schedule onward until about 23Apr.

If you have specific questions, feel free to PM me.

God Bless, and Namaste to you and your family and friends...hope you don't have bad symptoms if/when you get the Cvirus...

Each bid month, there are 30 and 60 day lines, and each month there are differing numbers of each. The schedule comes out about on the 23rd, unless you get a VTO line, then you have to rebid and find out later that month what your line is.

I would go so far as to call management fraudulent in their treatment of employees. I honestly don’t understand how they are even allowed to still run an airline in the wake of all the near misses bent airplanes and packages and body parts strewn across the country side.

Outbasing
 

Quick question, if you are home based/have a gateway city, how does outbasing work? Where would you do outbasing? Can you do an outbasing overseas some place?

A. You are not home based.
B. If you have a gateway city it means you aren’t paid for travel days and you won’t be in that city for the duration of the outbase (a month)
C. You would bid the outbase, and undermine your peers by working for a continuous month at straight pay. The equivalent of about 7 days of open time pay......simple math.
D. Taipei, Narita, and Hahn Germany usually, at least on the 767.

But......you will make soo much per diem!