How long does it take to be awarded ONT after OE?

I don’t know where they are sending the new hires. Probably a mix bag. They’re rumors of ONT closing - but who knows.

To be honest I was mostly just humored that a greenhorn that hasn’t even started class yet was beginning to realize the screwjob had already begun before he even got to class. I didn’t find it distasteful at all, because it’s so true.

The April vacancy award shows the bottom pilot, a March 76 hire in CVG with 4 new hires going to CVG below him. The bottom ONT 76 FO is a January hire 23 numbers above him.

As RyeMex said, it's really anybody's guess. I don't think one type of airplane or flying requires more or less pilot than another, but there are different knowledge sets used. If we were confident in our ability to train to the demands we place on our pilots we wouldn't be selecting who gets routed where.

For what it's worth, I have a lot of positive experiences here. I tend to do about 50% passenger and 50% cargo. I like the diversity in work assignments. I like the people I work with. I like the people I talk to on the phone. I like the flying. I like the layovers. I tend to avoid breakfasts and crew bars, and I go on field trips to odd-ball locations with a few similar weirdos. It's actually really cool.

This was my reply to the same question 5 pages back.

As pointed out above there are three types of reserve. R1 is home reserve with no pay credit. If Scheduling calls you between 7am and noon in your home time zone, you have to be able to depart from your gateway airport within 5 hours. From noon till 7am you have to be able to leave within 10 hours so if they haven’t called by noon you’re safe till the next day unless a company plane is going through your gateway airport in the middle of the night. R2 is the closest to normal airline reserve. You’re in your base or “other location that is mutually agreeable.” You’re on trip rig and collecting per diem. However per IRS rules if you’re in your base your per diem is taxed and Atlas used to tax your hotel room as the IRS considers it a benefit to you. I haven’t sat R2 in years but the last time my per diem was taxed but not the hotel bill. An R2 line isn't like normal airline reserve in that in most cases it just means we haven’t figured it out yet. Bids close on the 21st of each month so by the 22nd you’ll know what line you got. There is another bid for people who got a VTO line. Lines are built from the trips conflicting with pilots vacation and training days. The final schedule is published on the 27th. So if you got a reserve line it could have some days filled in with flying. And by the time your trip actually starts it probably will have flying assigned. In 11 years I would not have to take my shoes off to count the number of days I’ve actually sat R2 reserve. If you’re on R2 you have to be able to report for duty within 90 minutes. R3 is “airport reserve” and you have to be able to block out in 90 minutes. I’m not a CVG person but that would be the only place with R3 for the 747. I don’t know if they even do it. You can be on R3 for 6 hours.

I'll add I don't normally bid reserve. On a regular or VTO line you can only be extended "to protect the operation." Say your last leg is ANC-CVG and the plane is running late out of Tokyo. They can hold you in ANC to complete your flight. I've sat in ANC waiting for a plane and when I talked with Scheduling was told "Your the only one available." That there were no spare Captains in ANC, one of our larger bases, should tell you all you need to know about reserve at Atlas. On a reserve line they can add a 3 day trip that departs at 23:59 on your 17th day. You do get 4 "guaranteed days off" a year that you can place at the end of a trip to prevent being extended. But you can't use GDO days in the fourth quarter.

Just emphasizing one of those great points! Go UPS FedEx, the others better as well although I definitely do not know what the future holds for the Pax carriers and they don’t either just based on their threads. It’s ALL cyclic mind you. Nothing gained when nothing is tried. Good luck to you all. Need a job, come on in and be fiscally responsible; jump ship when desired, but if your dreaming of hitting a lottery ticket probably not so much but that’s the right gambling analogy. It works really well for some and not so well for others. I wish everyone the Best!

Ahhhh Yes Twin Wasp, thanks for the GDO reminder. I’ve been saving them all for these next 4 months and I have Sep Vacation and October as well which as you said we can’t use them during 4th Qtr - not that it will matter. No extensions for myself this year as of yet even though it’s far from over, but the next 4 months are pretty much safe - Granted, if they were to extend Mwa, you’ve got to pay me boyeee! While the threat is real, in my case 1 extension last year so there’s that. Didn’t even work it; like Twin Wasp mentioned the incoming bird was further delayed and I called, they caved thankfully and bam HKG-DFW-HSV that 1st leg was almost 15 hrs, thankful for lie-flat and movie night over and over again... Probably a very empty flight right now if it is even available.

I see on the Atlas Training web that you owe 747 and 767 sims. Do you guys use PanAm 737 sims?.

About the training footprint, I'm guessing we take care of systems through CBTs, then Indoc/Orientation, some initial, mockup cockpit for flows and off you go to the sim?

Atlas has an almost brand new 737NG sim housed at Boeing. That’s essentially the footprint.