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fr8ghtdawg 08-23-2019 06:19 PM

Globemaster,
I'm very aware of Omni contract, The rate is higher but the work rules aren't up to the K4 contract , same with the ATI contract. Spirit rounds out to about even with K4 with the retirement considered.(which is industry standard at 16% direct contribution) Also, why their rate is okay, They have a really good guarantee. I truly envy the retirement you have at Fed Ex with the pension and hope that its there for you when you retire. I know that the fidelity direct contribution that you have there (fed ex) is what the standard should be at K4 and Atlas.

CardboardCutout 08-23-2019 06:39 PM

Omni and Kalitta get compared quite often (and fair enough, the Omni contract smells a LOT like "K4+0"). But they're pretty different jobs, AFAICT. Kalitta flies cargo, flies a lot, and Connie calls his own shots, for better or worse. Mostly better, it seems like. Omni flies people (people wearing boots, mostly), flies not a lot (at least right now), and is owned by ATSG. Pretty different lifestyles. I'm extremely happy at Omni, because I'm lazy and old, and guarantee works for me. If I were a young hard-charger who wanted to stack the greenbacks and build the hours, I would prefer Kalitta. Caveat Emptor and all that.

PS. I will append that Omni's work-rules are better in some areas simply by virtue of not being subject to the "cargo cutout".

The Dominican 08-24-2019 06:18 PM

If anybody at Atlas could answer some questions on PM's please let me know!

Best regards and thanks in advance.

boeingdvr 08-25-2019 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 2875792)
If anybody at Atlas could answer some questions on PM's please let me know!

Best regards and thanks in advance.

Surely, you must be joking....

BayBum4Ever 08-25-2019 05:14 PM

AtlasFacts.org

V1Rotate 08-26-2019 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2720701)
We are hiring !! Need all the bodies we can find. Come on over, the water is warm.

- 21 day trips around the world. If you want, you can bid back to back for 40 days on the road.
- 4.85 trip rig ( not per day ) half day = half pay.
- Day / night patterns
- day sleeping
- ready reserve from 3am - 9am ( no sleep rooms )
- Union Assement of $50 bucks a month mandatory
- 5 year upgrade on 767
- 1 year upgrade on 737 ( all nighters all the time ) 20 hours a month flying. Need 1k pic before upgrade.
- not a time building airline.
- Min guaranteed 62 hours.
- vacation & training months 62 hours. No way to break 62 unless working on days off
- DH to Asia on the 747 ( 4.85 ) hours of pay
- Atlas has deal with AA and Delta for ultra deep discounted fares. Not easy to accrue points and miles now.
- Most hotels crew member doesn't keep points.
- Plan on 1600 per month for first 5 months as new hire.
- OT is seniority based. New hires rarely get OT.

- We need all hands on deck. Come on over !!


Sounds to appealing, but I think I’ll pass. ;)

NoJoy 08-26-2019 06:24 PM

Latest news concerning Atlas/Southern. Courts decision:

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/arbitrator-denies-atlas-airs-pilots-bid-to-negotiate-imposes-arbitrated-settlement

seattlepilot 08-26-2019 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJay (Post 2872152)
So would it be worth coming to Southern for the triple right now? Received an offer to interview...:confused:



No. Simple as that

Globemaster2827 08-26-2019 09:28 PM

Condolences on the ruling today. I know it must be very tough right now, but remember that it's never as good or as bad as it seems. If any of you want any advice on FedEx or UPS please hit me up with a PM or on All Out. This goes for all of you "Scumbag Freight" guys trying to get the best for your families. If you keep grinding I promise good things will happen.

God Bless.

Asiabound 08-27-2019 08:57 AM

Are people still showing up to class? It seems like that is your only real leverage...


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