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boeingdvr 12-07-2018 04:25 PM

One more point !

We have these really great trips.

Day 1:
1230am wake up call. 330am departure.
CVG-STL-XXX. Land at 8am.
Sleep ( airport hotel )
Day 2 ( really day 1 ) 6pm Wakeup call.
XXX-STL-CVG. Arrive @ 2am.
Day 3. See day 1
Day 4. See day 2
Day 5-9999. See Day 1.

The trips are really sweet. You show up in the middle of the night after being awake all day. Fly 1-3 legs. Sleep in the middle of the day, and repeat. For your entire time on the 737!!!

boeingdvr 12-07-2018 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by CCpounder (Post 2721018)
In all honesty, not trying to be a d*ck, what’s keeping you here? I’m all for people leaving / not getting hired to show Atlas management how badly we need a new contract. This is night and day from my last job doing Ad-Hoc cargo though, so I’m pretty content for the time being

I'm here for the catering, the night flying, the min pay, the lowest pay in the industry, the constant schedule changes, the imputed income, R3 at the hub @
3am, the non GPS, non CPDLC ocean flying, the HAZMAT, 1am wakeups, and beers with my buds.


How about you ?

ps2sunvalley 12-07-2018 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2721028)
I'm here for the catering, the night flying, the min pay, the lowest pay in the industry, the constant schedule changes, the imputed income, R3 at the hub @
3am, the non GPS, non CPDLC ocean flying, the HAZMAT, 1am wakeups, and beers with my buds.


How about you ?

Sounds like military strategic airlift. Just kidding, we have GPS, and CPDLC works most of the time.

boeingdvr 12-07-2018 04:44 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FswmNSov_JY

CCpounder 12-07-2018 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2721028)
I'm here for the catering, the night flying, the min pay, the lowest pay in the industry, the constant schedule changes, the imputed income, R3 at the hub @
3am, the non GPS, non CPDLC ocean flying, the HAZMAT, 1am wakeups, and beers with my buds.

How about you ?


I’m here because I was tired of doing 28+ hour duty days with only 6-8 hours of block time, loading my own 20,000-30,000lbs of freight, no catering, less pay, flying with a Trimble GPS, on call 24/7 with a 20 minute show time, paying for my own crash pad, and a few other minor things. I didn’t have the time for big K or other cargo operations and I didn’t wanna go back to pax flying. So I guess you can say this was my only option. I don’t regret my decision. I like flying around the world and getting paid to do it. Could it be better? Of course, but, I know it could be much worse

useless 12-07-2018 04:58 PM

Flying around the world can be lonely enough without alienating yourself from all your coworkers.

Luckily the 73 doesn't fly around the world. It only goes about 60° left and right.

Lawn Boy 12-07-2018 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by CCpounder (Post 2720987)
Pretty sure it’s 1000 PIC, OR 1500 SIC, with 500 at the company

And also 2500 hrs in group II aircraft, iirc.

Elevation 12-08-2018 01:03 AM

I think guys are responding to the new recruiting ads on this site. I also used to fly single pilot freight and do a lot of loading and unloading. We've probably been to a number of same places, etc. Of course, so have a lot of other guys. I think most of us have much more in common than we think.

CandlerKid 12-08-2018 05:04 AM

Not directed at anybody here, but just a general observation from my time at Atlas. We all worked crappy jobs at some point. If you want a better contract you need to be looking across the ramp at the other international widebody pilots and asking “why don’t I make as much as they do flying the same plane?” not looking at the C208 and thinking “man this is better than that!” 90% get it and are doing everything they can for a new contract but it’s an uphill battle convincing some there that they are worth more (see pre-OE 737 pilots for example). Frustrating to hear if you’re going there hoping for a new CBA and have it be the final career stop.

boeingdvr 12-08-2018 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by CandlerKid (Post 2721268)
Not directed at anybody here, but just a general observation from my time at Atlas. We all worked crappy jobs at some point. If you want a better contract you need to be looking across the ramp at the other international widebody pilots and asking “why don’t I make as much as they do flying the same plane?” not looking at the C208 and thinking “man this is better than that!” 90% get it and are doing everything they can for a new contract but it’s an uphill battle convincing some there that they are worth more (see pre-OE 737 pilots for example). Frustrating to hear if you’re going there hoping for a new CBA and have it be the final career stop.

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