Atlas / Southern
12-10-2018, 06:06 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
^ For those trying to make an informed decision, all this is correct. Upgrade on every fleet besides the 73 is 5+ years (assuming no growth, which is the safest assumption.) First year 50hr guarantee hurts, that being said, I spent 3 months of this year on 1st year pay, remainder on 2nd year pay and will just miss 100k by the end of December, plus another $11,500 in per diem. I did 1 extra trip, live in base. If you don’t live in base, the 17 days gets long or longer quick, be aware.
You must not be on the 737...
Still would like to know when the most junior captain was hired with Southern flying the 737 side.
12-10-2018, 06:12 PM
#42
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you'll need 1)2500 on larger group II a/c 41,000lb or more AND 1000PIC on those a/c or... 2)1500hr on those a/c and 500 as SIC at the company....and that will take you about 2 1/2 -3 years based on flying about 20-30 hr a month if you hold a line. If you come on with their hiring mins and haven't flown a larger aircraft then as you see you are looking at 5-7 years....with no pay raise until year 4.
12-10-2018, 06:33 PM
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If you want some specific info, or have specific questions, feel free to contact me.
My opinion only:
737: The pay is so pitiful, I don't see how this makes sense. Maybe if you need a 737 type rating relatively soon...
767: The pay is terrible, especially for a 767. IF you live in CVG, or want to move there, then you can be home for a lot of nights, IF you do the DHL hub flying. If you can hold JFK, you can do a lot of pax flying all over the world.
777: The pay is awful (better than terrible). You go to about 6 destinations...over and over and over. You don't fly much.
My opinion only:
737: The pay is so pitiful, I don't see how this makes sense. Maybe if you need a 737 type rating relatively soon...
767: The pay is terrible, especially for a 767. IF you live in CVG, or want to move there, then you can be home for a lot of nights, IF you do the DHL hub flying. If you can hold JFK, you can do a lot of pax flying all over the world.
777: The pay is awful (better than terrible). You go to about 6 destinations...over and over and over. You don't fly much.
12-10-2018, 06:56 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by iropman
You must not be on the 737...
Still would like to know when the most junior captain was hired with Southern flying the 737 side.
Still would like to know when the most junior captain was hired with Southern flying the 737 side.
05-25-2019, 06:17 AM
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recent rumor
So I’ve heard a recent rumor about Atlas/Southern that I find quite disturbing. I heard that your instructors are being as unhelpful as possible to New Hires and that your washout rate has increased dramatically. The intent, I was told, is to pressure management into a new contract.
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
05-25-2019, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RoundPeg
So I’ve heard a recent rumor about Atlas/Southern that I find quite disturbing. I heard that your instructors are being as unhelpful as possible to New Hires and that your washout rate has increased dramatically. The intent, I was told, is to pressure management into a new contract.
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
05-25-2019, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RoundPeg
So I’ve heard a recent rumor about Atlas/Southern that I find quite disturbing. I heard that your instructors are being as unhelpful as possible to New Hires and that your washout rate has increased dramatically. The intent, I was told, is to pressure management into a new contract.
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
If you can’t perform, or need help- look towards yourself.
Our unfortunate accident, had brought training to the fore front.
If you do make it through- A 21 day trip around the world a few times await!!
Come on and see for yourself, CALL HR TODAY!
CVG today, BAH tomorrow- or is that today again ??
05-25-2019, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
The instructors in Miami are more pro-company. But what I have seen- instructors are not helping students “get through” training. Self preservation, the instructors love their money, so they will do their job, and their job only.
If you can’t perform, or need help- look towards yourself.
Our unfortunate accident, had brought training to the fore front.
If you do make it through- A 21 day trip around the world a few times await!!
Come on and see for yourself, CALL HR TODAY!
CVG today, BAH tomorrow- or is that today again ??
If you can’t perform, or need help- look towards yourself.
Our unfortunate accident, had brought training to the fore front.
If you do make it through- A 21 day trip around the world a few times await!!
Come on and see for yourself, CALL HR TODAY!
CVG today, BAH tomorrow- or is that today again ??
05-28-2019, 09:08 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by RoundPeg
So I’ve heard a recent rumor about Atlas/Southern that I find quite disturbing. I heard that your instructors are being as unhelpful as possible to New Hires and that your washout rate has increased dramatically. The intent, I was told, is to pressure management into a new contract.
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
Any truth to this, or is it just typical pilot bullsh*t?
Hopefully, when the dirty laundry at Atlas is all aired out, certain individuals in management will end up in prison where they belong.
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