Atlas Air Fleet Type differences
#572
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2022
Posts: 23
You can get a widebody (not the 737) based on your experience. Seems like the pay would be close after a couple years. You’re likely gonna be getting anywhere between 70-90hrs a month as a line holder depending on the fleet (lowest on 767 as a general rule), but there are many situations that will drive you back to MMG. The first 6,7,8 or 9 months of your stint at Atlas will be one.
Can’t tell ya what works for you/the family. If you’re getting closer to the top of the pay scale where you’re at the juice is probably worth the squeeze. If you’re close to upgrade there probably not.
From a purely qualitative, absolutely doesn’t pay the bills standpoint, I don’t know where else you can find the variety we have here.
Can’t tell ya what works for you/the family. If you’re getting closer to the top of the pay scale where you’re at the juice is probably worth the squeeze. If you’re close to upgrade there probably not.
From a purely qualitative, absolutely doesn’t pay the bills standpoint, I don’t know where else you can find the variety we have here.
#574
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2022
Posts: 23
The way i look at it you get 4.85 hours pay for every duty day so assuming you gone 17 days it's 82.5 hours. I mean I assume you come there to work and for them to want you to work and not sit at home every month so expecting min guarantee once training is finished is not something i d expect (though it can always happen for whatever reason).
Other assumption is 17 days away from base not having layover in the US, though unlikely it won't influence to total amount that much)
So for the 747 which is the highest hourly paid fleet you'd already reach your target of 9k a month after tax without any over time after 12 months.
First year During training 94,76 (Hourly) x 64(hours) = 6064,64(gross salary) x 0.7(tax) = 4245,25 + 30(days) x 24(hours) x2.85(dollar per day) = 6297,25 after tax
First year (assuming normal year 1 salary after training) 120.51 x 82.5 = 9942,07 x 0.7 = 6959,45 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 8387,45 after tax
Second year 137,10 x 82.5 = 11310,75 x 0.7 = 7917,52 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 9345,52 after tax
Hope it helps, other can chime in how much a 4 day overtime trip on the 747 gets you cause that i don t know
Edit: This is just ment to give a ball park and that you can get to your target a lot faster then you might think
Other assumption is 17 days away from base not having layover in the US, though unlikely it won't influence to total amount that much)
So for the 747 which is the highest hourly paid fleet you'd already reach your target of 9k a month after tax without any over time after 12 months.
First year During training 94,76 (Hourly) x 64(hours) = 6064,64(gross salary) x 0.7(tax) = 4245,25 + 30(days) x 24(hours) x2.85(dollar per day) = 6297,25 after tax
First year (assuming normal year 1 salary after training) 120.51 x 82.5 = 9942,07 x 0.7 = 6959,45 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 8387,45 after tax
Second year 137,10 x 82.5 = 11310,75 x 0.7 = 7917,52 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 9345,52 after tax
Hope it helps, other can chime in how much a 4 day overtime trip on the 747 gets you cause that i don t know
Edit: This is just ment to give a ball park and that you can get to your target a lot faster then you might think
Thanks for putting the time to explain this, really appreciate it!
#575
I think my wife is okay with the pay for the first couple of years, but she wasn't so happy to hear that I will be gone for like 16 or 20 days out of the month. Would you happen to know what's the typical layover hours at ICN? and how often you could get those schedules as a newly hired fo?
unless you live in base, then you’d see your bed a few more nights each month, depending on the base/fleet.
But gateway travel plus your trip…..17-19, extensions do happen every now and then..
#576
The only way your rig pay will equal 82.5 hours is if your trip starts at 00:01 on day one and finishes at 23:59 on day 17. Better to plan 76 hours for months you don’t drop back to min guarantee.
#577
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 34
You keep thinking Atlas pays by the calendar day. Everyone says 4.85 hours a day but it’s really 20 percent of your hourly rate per hour. If you have a 17 day block and start the middle of day one and finish the middle of day 17 you would get 16x4.85 which is 77.6 hours pay. If you are on a 2 month line you’ll be in the low 70s or high 60s because 6 days were not full 24 hour days for pay purposes. On the other hand, the extra day pay does not require you to be out a full 24 hours into your scheduled day off.
So what about the extra pay is that 18 hours for a 4 days trip or 18 + trip rig?
#578
It’s more realistic to plan on 76 hours rig for a one month line and a bit less for a two month line because you’ll never get 82 hours of rig in a month of normal flying. The 2-4-6 goes on top of the greater of the block time or rig for the extra days.
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