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Old 10-07-2022, 04:38 PM
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do you know if Atlas will have openings on 74 in next year??
Oh absolutely. Lots of them.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver View Post
You can get a widebody (not the 737) based on your experience. Seems like the pay would be close after a couple years. You’re likely gonna be getting anywhere between 70-90hrs a month as a line holder depending on the fleet (lowest on 767 as a general rule), but there are many situations that will drive you back to MMG. The first 6,7,8 or 9 months of your stint at Atlas will be one.

Can’t tell ya what works for you/the family. If you’re getting closer to the top of the pay scale where you’re at the juice is probably worth the squeeze. If you’re close to upgrade there probably not.

From a purely qualitative, absolutely doesn’t pay the bills standpoint, I don’t know where else you can find the variety we have here.
I think my wife is okay with the pay for the first couple of years, but she wasn't so happy to hear that I will be gone for like 16 or 20 days out of the month. Would you happen to know what's the typical layover hours at ICN? and how often you could get those schedules as a newly hired fo?
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Originally Posted by CRJJ View Post
Oh absolutely. Lots of them.
thanks, that's certainly good news.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzologic View Post
The way i look at it you get 4.85 hours pay for every duty day so assuming you gone 17 days it's 82.5 hours. I mean I assume you come there to work and for them to want you to work and not sit at home every month so expecting min guarantee once training is finished is not something i d expect (though it can always happen for whatever reason).
Other assumption is 17 days away from base not having layover in the US, though unlikely it won't influence to total amount that much)

So for the 747 which is the highest hourly paid fleet you'd already reach your target of 9k a month after tax without any over time after 12 months.


First year During training 94,76 (Hourly) x 64(hours) = 6064,64(gross salary) x 0.7(tax) = 4245,25 + 30(days) x 24(hours) x2.85(dollar per day) = 6297,25 after tax
First year (assuming normal year 1 salary after training) 120.51 x 82.5 = 9942,07 x 0.7 = 6959,45 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 8387,45 after tax
Second year 137,10 x 82.5 = 11310,75 x 0.7 = 7917,52 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 9345,52 after tax

Hope it helps, other can chime in how much a 4 day overtime trip on the 747 gets you cause that i don t know

Edit: This is just ment to give a ball park and that you can get to your target a lot faster then you might think
Thank you this really helped me a lot! Having only experience working abroad with a completely different pay system, it was hard for me to do all the calculations by just looking at the pay scale.
Thanks for putting the time to explain this, really appreciate it!
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Old 10-07-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tomorrowland View Post
I think my wife is okay with the pay for the first couple of years, but she wasn't so happy to hear that I will be gone for like 16 or 20 days out of the month. Would you happen to know what's the typical layover hours at ICN? and how often you could get those schedules as a newly hired fo?
Anybody taking a job at Atlas should count on being away for 17-19 days, simple as that.
unless you live in base, then you’d see your bed a few more nights each month, depending on the base/fleet.
But gateway travel plus your trip…..17-19, extensions do happen every now and then..
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The only way your rig pay will equal 82.5 hours is if your trip starts at 00:01 on day one and finishes at 23:59 on day 17. Better to plan 76 hours for months you don’t drop back to min guarantee.
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Old 10-08-2022, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp View Post
You keep thinking Atlas pays by the calendar day. Everyone says 4.85 hours a day but it’s really 20 percent of your hourly rate per hour. If you have a 17 day block and start the middle of day one and finish the middle of day 17 you would get 16x4.85 which is 77.6 hours pay. If you are on a 2 month line you’ll be in the low 70s or high 60s because 6 days were not full 24 hour days for pay purposes. On the other hand, the extra day pay does not require you to be out a full 24 hours into your scheduled day off.
I'm pretty sure i specifically mention with every calculation assuming you are out of base full 24 hours for x amount of days. If people read that differently thats on them to be honest. The calculations are on 17 days away from base period. Don't really see how you could interpet that differently. Calculations are thus max pay and realkity might be few hours below that when starting late and coming back early.

So what about the extra pay is that 18 hours for a 4 days trip or 18 + trip rig?
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Old 10-08-2022, 04:18 PM
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It’s more realistic to plan on 76 hours rig for a one month line and a bit less for a two month line because you’ll never get 82 hours of rig in a month of normal flying. The 2-4-6 goes on top of the greater of the block time or rig for the extra days.
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Is the 737 fleet also listed under GTI or PAC on flightradar24 as well?
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Old 10-09-2022, 05:32 AM
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Is the 737 fleet also listed under GTI or PAC on flightradar24 as well?
Yes. GTI.
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