Latest on Polar?
06-09-2007, 07:13 PM
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Latest on Polar?
Whats the latest on Polar Air Cargo? Last I heard, the furloughs are being called back with backpay, 747-200's are gone, and atlas owns them.
Are they gonna starting hiring anytime soon? And do you apply through Atlas or Polar?
Would appreciate any info. Thanks!
Are they gonna starting hiring anytime soon? And do you apply through Atlas or Polar?
Would appreciate any info. Thanks!
06-09-2007, 07:43 PM
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First, I'm an Atlas guy, so Polaroids, correct me if I'm wrong.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
06-09-2007, 08:14 PM
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You almost got it right whaledriver:
We have a lot of attrition. However, there are enought to cover the job.
Arbitration is NOT for wanting all the classics back. It is for the company violating the return to work agreement. It specifically states that all of the captains be reinstated to pay and SEAT. Not just pay. That's hard to due with only one return to service airplane. So the arbirtrations that are set up in August are for Arbitrator Kasher's rulings that the company is clearly violating -to include the Captains that are no longer sitting left seat to get their pay back as they have since been reduced to the F.O. pay. There isn't anymore "alliance flying" for the simple fact that management renamed all of the flights (gave our fllying to Atlas). Hey, nothing we can do about that one.
Flight Engineers were furloughed because of the rewording of who flies what. Again, they were supposed to be returned to their seat as well. Not just pay.
And last they WERE NOT your airplanes. The ariplanes that we had either went to the desert or were sold. Kind of a bull sh&t comment if you ask me. And if I'm wrong, please correct me as I don't mind admitting mistakes. The airplane that we had on the classic side that was yours was 355MC the - 300 series. 516MC yes, was on your certificate and now is over here in ICN flying to Bejing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. Which, by the way, is a nice flying airplane.
Atlas is hiring 40 to 50 according to their Chief Pilot. I just checked the website and they have since removed the flight crew information for hiring.
Originally Posted by Whaledriver
First, I'm an Atlas guy, so Polaroids, correct me if I'm wrong.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
Arbitration is NOT for wanting all the classics back. It is for the company violating the return to work agreement. It specifically states that all of the captains be reinstated to pay and SEAT. Not just pay. That's hard to due with only one return to service airplane. So the arbirtrations that are set up in August are for Arbitrator Kasher's rulings that the company is clearly violating -to include the Captains that are no longer sitting left seat to get their pay back as they have since been reduced to the F.O. pay. There isn't anymore "alliance flying" for the simple fact that management renamed all of the flights (gave our fllying to Atlas). Hey, nothing we can do about that one.
Flight Engineers were furloughed because of the rewording of who flies what. Again, they were supposed to be returned to their seat as well. Not just pay.
And last they WERE NOT your airplanes. The ariplanes that we had either went to the desert or were sold. Kind of a bull sh&t comment if you ask me. And if I'm wrong, please correct me as I don't mind admitting mistakes. The airplane that we had on the classic side that was yours was 355MC the - 300 series. 516MC yes, was on your certificate and now is over here in ICN flying to Bejing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. Which, by the way, is a nice flying airplane.
Atlas is hiring 40 to 50 according to their Chief Pilot. I just checked the website and they have since removed the flight crew information for hiring.
Last edited by Polarfr8dog; 06-09-2007 at 08:20 PM. Reason: spelling
06-09-2007, 08:22 PM
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You almost got it right whaledriver:
We have a lot of attrition. However, there are enought to cover the job.
Arbitrator Kasher is not happy. Arbitration is NOT for wanting all the classics back. It is for the company violating the return to work agreement. It specifically states that all of the captains be reinstated to pay and SEAT. Not just pay. That's hard to due with only one return to service airplane. So the arbirtrations that are set up in August are for the Arbitrator' Kasher's rulings that the company is clearly violating -to include the Captains that are no longer sitting left seat to get their pay back as they have since been reduced to the F.O. pay. There isn't anymore "alliance flying" for the simple fact that management renamed all of the flights. Hey, nothing we can do about that one.
Flight Engineers were furloughed because of the rewording of who flies what. Again, they were supposed to be returned to their seat as well. Not just pay.
And last they WERE NOT your airplanes. The ariplanes that we had either went to the desert or were sold. Kind of a bull sh&t comment if you ask me. The airplane that we had on the classic side that was yours was 355MC the - 300 series. 516MC yes, was on your certificate and now is over here in ICN. Which, by the way, is a nice flying airplane.
Atlas is hiring 40 to 50 according to their Chief Pilot. I just checked the website and they have since removed the flight crew information for hiring.
Originally Posted by Whaledriver
First, I'm an Atlas guy, so Polaroids, correct me if I'm wrong.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
One -200 at Polar, N516MC in Atlas colors, flying out of ICN.
Hiring at Atlas going on now.
May be some hiring at Polar later this summer, due to attrition.
Arbitration hearing in August for Polar wanting all the classics back that were Atlas's in the first place.
FE's not needed for the -200, again furloughed, Captains not needed, pay reduced back to FO pay. This is a result of Atlas no longer flying any Polar flights, so this makes the arbitrator happy.
Arbitrator Kasher is not happy. Arbitration is NOT for wanting all the classics back. It is for the company violating the return to work agreement. It specifically states that all of the captains be reinstated to pay and SEAT. Not just pay. That's hard to due with only one return to service airplane. So the arbirtrations that are set up in August are for the Arbitrator' Kasher's rulings that the company is clearly violating -to include the Captains that are no longer sitting left seat to get their pay back as they have since been reduced to the F.O. pay. There isn't anymore "alliance flying" for the simple fact that management renamed all of the flights. Hey, nothing we can do about that one.
Flight Engineers were furloughed because of the rewording of who flies what. Again, they were supposed to be returned to their seat as well. Not just pay.
And last they WERE NOT your airplanes. The ariplanes that we had either went to the desert or were sold. Kind of a bull sh&t comment if you ask me. The airplane that we had on the classic side that was yours was 355MC the - 300 series. 516MC yes, was on your certificate and now is over here in ICN. Which, by the way, is a nice flying airplane.
Atlas is hiring 40 to 50 according to their Chief Pilot. I just checked the website and they have since removed the flight crew information for hiring.
06-12-2007, 10:30 AM
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Yes, I did change my mind since the TA on STN. I really wanted to go to Atlas but the STN thing was the only hold back. Now that they fixed that it should be "all good". PM me so we can chat about where to find cheap drinks by the hotel.
06-14-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by IndyAir Guy
Yes, I did change my mind since the TA on STN. I really wanted to go to Atlas but the STN thing was the only hold back. Now that they fixed that it should be "all good". PM me so we can chat about where to find cheap drinks by the hotel.
If they put you at the Hampton out by the Doral, there are things to eat and a liquor store in the little strip mall.
The hiring I was referring to were the two classes that it looks like you guys are in.
Last edited by Polarfr8dog; 06-15-2007 at 07:01 AM.
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