Any chance of ICN base in the future?
Hey everyone!
I am a brand new FO at a regional thinking about my future in cargo flying! Recently - I traveled to South Korea and I saw A LOT of Atlas (747) planes. It was incredible. It got me curious and I began reading about Atlas and ICN - apparently you guys fly there quite frequently and Atlas is building a big maintenance base in ICN to be completed by 2025!? Do you think there will be ICN base for crew in the future? If so - that would be amazing :) I would love to be closer to my parents in Korea. |
Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3413833)
Hey everyone!
I am a brand new FO at a regional thinking about my future in cargo flying! Recently - I traveled to South Korea and I saw A LOT of Atlas (747) planes. It was incredible. It got me curious and I began reading about Atlas and ICN - apparently you guys fly there quite frequently and Atlas is building a big maintenance base in ICN to be completed by 2025!? Do you think there will be ICN base for crew in the future? If so - that would be amazing :) I would love to be closer to my parents in Korea. 0% They have a better chance of buying FDX |
We won't ever open a base there but I would imagine ICN being one of the easiest non-base places to live, with many nights at home.
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus
(Post 3413871)
We won't ever open a base there but I would imagine ICN being one of the easiest non-base places to live, with many nights at home.
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On the 74 there are multiple ICN - ANC flights a day as well as trips that start with deadheads to ICN. The best though I think is the 767 runs. Those start and end with DHs to ICN. You could work 3 nights a month and be done. Although those take some seniority to hold and that's the most the subject to change as that's just one DHL contract and I could very well see it going back to TPE as it once was.
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3413876)
Really? I am not quite sure of the logistics of that - but I would imagine it will be difficult/expensive / crazy long commute :( It would be nice if it was doable tho....
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We have multiple pilots who live in ICN. They seem very happy.
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Definitely our most transited international location we have. Easiest of any overseas at this time.
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Easiest would be to remain ANC (74) based and you could easily live in Korea.
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Wow you guys! This is fascinating! I did not think it was remotely possible to live in Korea and commute to a U.S. company. I'm guessing it's only possible with Atlas (which means this will be my final destination company) I am super excited 😁 Thank you very much for your inputs!
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3414097)
Wow you guys! This is fascinating! I did not think it was remotely possible to live in Korea and commute to a U.S. company. I'm guessing it's only possible with Atlas (which means this will be my final destination company) I am super excited 😁 Thank you very much for your inputs!
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Like most said, it wouldn’t be too hard to get rolling to or from ANC. Just a thought: Bet you could call scheds and see if they needed you to operate from ICN to wherever vs day prior to ANC for positioning. - just a thought if you lived in Korea.
ICN *Pretty much a home away from home for most… |
Originally Posted by C17B74
(Post 3450806)
Like most said, it wouldn’t be too hard to get rolling to or from ANC. Just a thought: Bet you could call scheds and see if they needed you to operate from ICN to wherever vs day prior to ANC for positioning. - just a thought if you lived in Korea.
ICN *Pretty much a home away from home for most… |
Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3414097)
Wow you guys! This is fascinating! I did not think it was remotely possible to live in Korea and commute to a U.S. company. I'm guessing it's only possible with Atlas (which means this will be my final destination company) I am super excited 😁 Thank you very much for your inputs!
Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3413876)
Really? I am not quite sure of the logistics of that - but I would imagine it will be difficult/expensive / crazy long commute :( It would be nice if it was doable tho....
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Originally Posted by martymcflyface
(Post 3450894)
Is this possible with NRT or anywhere in Japan? That would suit my family situation nicely
*Caveat - Might be an issue if China/we aren’t allowing our folks to JS/DH thru to get to ANC, etc., hence mostly direct flights. **I would rather travel on company aircraft from ICN to ANC than commercial gateway MIA to ANC any day of the week and twice on Sunday. |
Originally Posted by C17B74
(Post 3451613)
Possible yes, but ICN is being referenced as the home base abroad or let’s say the hub for the hub & spoke type system at this time. Most flights flow thru ICN even coming from down under; therefore, those abroad with the ability to touch ICN easily shouldn’t have much trouble getting to ANC and possibly starting a trip from there.
*Caveat - Might be an issue if China/we aren’t allowing our folks to JS/DH thru to get to ANC, etc., hence mostly direct flights. **I would rather travel on company aircraft from ICN to ANC than commercial gateway MIA to ANC any day of the week and twice on Sunday. |
Originally Posted by notthesame
(Post 3451854)
I've had several company JS'rs on board through China coming from SYD/ICN etc. I don't think its an issue.
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All kinds of rumors in MIA about two new bases and new training center but I’ll believe it when announced.
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Originally Posted by Guard
(Post 3456149)
All kinds of rumors in MIA about two new bases and new training center but I’ll believe it when announced.
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Originally Posted by guard
(Post 3456149)
all kinds of rumors in mia about two new bases and new training center but i’ll believe it when announced.
iah 767 & 747 pdx 767 & 737 |
Originally Posted by 160to4
(Post 3456343)
iah 767 & 747
pdx 767 & 737 |
Originally Posted by Pahlot
(Post 3456498)
Any idea what sort of flying that is slated for each fleet and base, and how senior these may go?
IAH 74 is pax charter. |
Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
(Post 3456522)
According to the company, the 767 and 737 flying is Amazon flying that was already transiting the base, much like TPA 76.
IAH 74 is pax charter. |
It will be interesting to see how many aircrew members strong these bases will be unless that has already been released?
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Originally Posted by C17B74
(Post 3456715)
It will be interesting to see how many aircrew members strong these bases will be unless that has already been released?
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
(Post 3456727)
I do not have the numbers ontop of my head. But the flightline podcast has the information within it. IAH base kinda sorta threw a wrench into my plans…..
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus
(Post 3456907)
You are junior to me so you should not go to United. :D
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Is Atlas going to have a base in Sydney? Incentive for all the recently hired Australians to stay longer ? Are the Aussies paying their own way to/from home?
HD |
Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
(Post 3472522)
Is Atlas going to have a base in Sydney? Incentive for all the recently hired Australians to stay longer ? Are the Aussies paying their own way to/from home?
HD Can we open a base in Denver, as incentive for my loyalty to the company. |
Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
(Post 3472522)
Is Atlas going to have a base in Sydney? Incentive for all the recently hired Australians to stay longer ? Are the Aussies paying their own way to/from home?
HD |
Originally Posted by HPIC
(Post 3472529)
Atlas will not have a base in Sydney. To do so would be circumventing seniority because only those with work authorization in Australia would be able to be based there. That would be an immediate lawsuit from the union or individual pilots in my opinion.
HD |
Do not suggest tax free salaries for yourselves either…another lawsuit will entail
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How difficult (or simple) would a London/Europe commute be?
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Originally Posted by PurringRaccoon
(Post 3414097)
Wow you guys! This is fascinating! I did not think it was remotely possible to live in Korea and commute to a U.S. company. I'm guessing it's only possible with Atlas (which means this will be my final destination company) I am super excited 😁 Thank you very much for your inputs!
As it is now, a LOT of us live overseas, and/or travel extensively. It is relatively easy, depending on where you live, to get the company to buy your ticket (and maybe hotel) to/from overseas to start/end your trip. The end of my last pattern, ended in Sacramento. The company paid for a nice hotel downtown, then bought my First/Biz class ticket to YYZ the next day. Yesterday, they bought me a ticket from YYZ-ORD to start my next pattern. cliff YYZ |
Originally Posted by Stgh93
(Post 3449895)
wish i can join you someday lol. Never thought Atlas is this good.. possibly best option for any Korean living in USA with Greencard
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Originally Posted by Guard
(Post 3456149)
All kinds of rumors in MIA about two new bases and new training center but I’ll believe it when announced.
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
(Post 3472522)
Is Atlas going to have a base in Sydney? Incentive for all the recently hired Australians to stay longer ? Are the Aussies paying their own way to/from home?
HD |
Originally Posted by HPIC
(Post 3472529)
Atlas will not have a base in Sydney. To do so would be circumventing seniority because only those with work authorization in Australia would be able to be based there. That would be an immediate lawsuit from the union or individual pilots in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by rodrigues
(Post 3473854)
How difficult (or simple) would a London/Europe commute be?
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 3474207)
You don't even need a Greencard anymore. Atlas is hiring pilots without a passport/green card, because they are desperate, between attrition losses and all the new planes they are buying.
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