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Old 06-02-2022, 07:23 AM
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Maybe you company cheerleaders should at least wait until we have the same 15% DC retirement as Sun Country before you tell everyone how great it is at Atlas. We work more days than Kalitta and our pay rates are lower. That's how sad our new contract is.
With the job market how it is I don't quite understand how people who are this unhappy with Atlas still work at Atlas. Unless someone has a ton of 121 failures or just an awful personality, anyone at Atlas can go get hired at any legacy/LCC in the country. I, for one, am at Atlas cause I like it here. Can't see myself doing min rests at LGA.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:42 AM
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Maybe you company cheerleaders should at least wait until we have the same 15% DC retirement as Sun Country before you tell everyone how great it is at Atlas. We work more days than Kalitta and our pay rates are lower. That's how sad our new contract is.
Nobody disagrees with the notion that our arbitrated contract leaves a lot to be desired. The real question is- have you tendered your resignation yet?
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:02 AM
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We have a substandard contract and you guys are actively trying to recruit foreign pilots. Management loves pilots like you!
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mcfadden View Post
We have a substandard contract and you guys are actively trying to recruit foreign pilots. Management loves pilots like you!
who the F* is trying to hire nobody?, we are giving our opinion, OUR opinion, not the truth, not just facts, OUR opinion, get that?. Who are you to question what we can and can’t say about our own experience?.

other pilots love pilots like you, what a blast spending 17 days in the same cockpit.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:27 AM
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We have a substandard contract and you guys are actively trying to recruit foreign pilots. Management loves pilots like you!
Last time I checked, I don’t have pilot recruiter next to my job title nor is it on my resume, nor went out my way to hold meet and greets that the company has been actively trying to get line pilots to hold for candidates.

All I do is answer the questions based off of my experience and my experience only. I don’t pump sunshine and rainbows about my experience neither. There are good and bad about Atlas. Atlas works well for me and family for the time being.

If Atlas doesn’t work for you. Again, with a little bit of effort. You can always apply elsewhere and submit your resignation. Everyone is hiring like gang busters at the moment. While the rest of us try to make lemonade with lemons….
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mcfadden View Post
We have a substandard contract and you guys are actively trying to recruit foreign pilots. Management loves pilots like you!
So answering someone's questions is now considered "actively recruiting"? You must be the guy that got our tuna sandwiches and schnitzel taken away.
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Old 06-02-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mcfadden View Post
We have a substandard contract and you guys are actively trying to recruit foreign pilots. Management loves pilots like you!
Without getting too far down the finger-pointing rabbit hole, honest questions from pilots deserve honest answers. We don't need to do any skewing of answers to make other places more appealing than Atlas. There's plenty of genuinely bad news and dirty laundry for people to see.

A person that ties answering questions to being "company men" implicitly ties our union to dishonest answers. This isn't the case. I doubt it's productive.

Someone mentioned that the Union wants status-quo without expansions of foreign recruitment. Thanks for a straight answer to a question.

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Old 06-05-2022, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mcfadden View Post
Maybe you company cheerleaders should at least wait until we have the same 15% DC retirement as Sun Country before you tell everyone how great it is at Atlas. We work more days than Kalitta and our pay rates are lower. That's how sad our new contract is.

They’re hiring. Go ahead and go. If you do, I hope that you’re senior to me. Good luck.
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Old 06-05-2022, 05:36 AM
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They’re hiring. Go ahead and go. If you do, I hope that you’re senior to me. Good luck.
Just because I point out a part of a contract that is better at another airline doesn't mean that I want to go there. Not sure why I would even have to explain this.
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Old 06-05-2022, 06:15 AM
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Just because I point out a part of a contract that is better at another airline doesn't mean that I want to go there. Not sure why I would even have to explain this.
Now you are talking out of two sides of your mouth…..GMAFB
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