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Clue32 03-09-2024 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Nuthatch (Post 3779396)
Wow, I did not realize this for being 'based' but not actually living there. Commuting out of Abq, LA would probably be the easiest. Daaaaarn.

I would not think of commuting at Atlas in terms of ease. Think in terms of time and connections. From ABQ you can have a paid direct flight to ORD or IAH, or a paid two leg paid ticket to any of our bases via DEN, DFW, or PHX, and probably SLC.

Two legs means your status rises quicker and it is easier to reach 1K on Unkted or whatever AA and DL call their elite levels. Helps justify being gone a few extra hours once your Gateway usually is upgraded to first class.

Nuthatch 03-09-2024 07:51 AM

Good point.

C17B74 03-10-2024 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by thatpilotbro (Post 3779304)
Another question along the same line. For you senior folks out there, what does a senior schedule look like at Atlas?

DERA is correct overall/99% = Most everyone takes the upgrade as soon as possible. "Senior" must be defined with some intent if you have a specific goal of running your schedule as a lifestyle focus. Granted, a lot of it is base specific regarding the number of offered lines and of course where the most senior folks have dug in. Sitting right seat well beyond upgrade times and the lifestyle has its measurable improvements. Currently with a very very senior crew - Capt/2 FOs and we have had multiple meals and excursions together discussing the opportunities we have come to enjoy regularly (Uncommon to have three legs together). Plenty of burner times getting here and there's a cost no doubt, but our schedules at least 6 months a year are not like the others. Things do change so we are enjoying what we can. Seniority here isn't like your main lines.

*Living in base is hands down the best quality of life. Couple that with being within the top three, five or maybe ten depending on base/bids available gives you significant breathing room. I myself considered moving left a couple of times, but you must calculate where you will fall into the Capt mix to truly understand your capabilities of best controlling the uncontrollable. Immediate upgrade makes the most sense no doubt, but tack on several years and there are loopholes to be had just my observation living it as we all have our priorities.

WarniWarni 03-15-2024 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3779393)
747 - ANC newhire base with probably LAX next.
777- LAX newhire base with probably CVG next.


several of my 74 classmates have been able to get CVG/MIA on the first vacancy bid run and we've only been here a month, seems like LAX is going more senior due to the Aussies. ORD/JFK/IAH also seem to be more senior.

Watto 03-17-2024 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 3778699)
LAX folks get hit with California disability taxes, so you might not want to be based there. A Captain just told me it is now 2% with no income cap.

No. And yes.

No, the California disability tax is not 2%, it is 1.1%. Yes, there is no longer an income cap on that as of 2024. The cap was on earnings up to $153,164 until this year.

ANC based employees have to pay 0.5% in 2024, but only on their first $49,700.


A Captain exaggerating taxes by almost double?? Unthinkable!

C17B74 03-20-2024 10:36 PM

Still a crap state of affairs and terrible waste of good real estate. Could be amazing and that's the shame of it all. It's an extravagant pay to play situation on so many levels. It was tough enough decades ago living in SoCal and NorCal and I can't imagine since the turn of the Century or worse yet this past decade. Northeast and some other areas have pay to play as well, but these past five years many have revealed their true colors. Such a quagmire of choices really.

metro3 03-21-2024 06:10 AM

Schedule question
 
Hi,
Is there a "typical" schedule on the 74 for how many days in a row you are on?
What are the chances that you are gone 17 days straight?
​​​​
Thanks



Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3778695)
You can really be based in any domicile. Forget the non reving to go to work stress... and the need for crashpads. We don't need any of that.
They will fly you out the day prior and provide you with hotel.
In case you start your pattern with a DH you will usually be able to leave the day of the trip and be home a day more.
On secondary lines you get more days off but usually only get min guarantee.
On reserve, you get hotels for the duration...


Cactus310 04-05-2024 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 3778699)
LAX folks get hit with California disability taxes, so you might not want to be based there. A Captain just told me it is now 2% with no income cap.

We gateway the day prior to our first leg so that we have at least 10 hours rest. Flight, hotel, and ground transportation in base is included. You can gateway home on the first available flight as soon. as your pattern ends, or you can head to the hotel for rest and leave later.

Living in Denver, any base is just about as close as any other and you will have direct flights to them all. ANC, ORD, MIA, or CVG on the 747; CVG or MIA on the 777; CVG, IAH, PDX on the 767 are all good options. If the flight is 1 or 2 hours longer, we'll, more points for earning your Premier 1K status.

JFK on the 767 would permit traveling on Day 1, vice Day 0, as all our flights out of there begin with a phantom Deadhead. Phantom meaning, you won't actually go to JFK, you would travel from DEN direct.

do you see JFK during the rotation if that's your base? It sounds like if I actually want deadheads instead of a commute to base then JFK is a good choice? (Also would like Europe travel)

wingedmunkie 04-05-2024 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Cactus310 (Post 3789075)
do you see JFK during the rotation if that's your base? It sounds like if I actually want deadheads instead of a commute to base then JFK is a good choice? (Also would like Europe travel)

Anything can happen with Atlas scheduling; trying to predict what the lines will look like in the future is a wasted effort. I've been JFK based in both seats on the 747 and there are months that I don't ever see JFK (DH on both ends of the trip) and other months where all I have done are out and backs from JFK. I would say the best base for starting with deadheads is probably IAH simply due to the lack of scheduled flying there but JFK almost always has a few lines that don't touch it.

Clue32 04-05-2024 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Cactus310 (Post 3789075)
do you see JFK during the rotation if that's your base? It sounds like if I actually want deadheads instead of a commute to base then JFK is a good choice? (Also would like Europe travel)

Now on the 767, no. You will never see JFK. In the future? Well, Amazon does fly there, but ATI currently has that route. Atlas did a route from JFK to East Midlands for DHL, but the 767 no longer flies for DHL. Sports charter into JFK? I guess that is possible.

So for now, on the 767, JFK is a commercial DH day one and day last (Alternate Travel between your home and the jet). No need to gateway to base.


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