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GRINGOMANDINGO 02-12-2026 12:46 PM

Average Age
 
With all of the current merger/acquisition talk over here at Purple I have a genuine question. How would an SLI look between purple and Atlas? We are an older airline, what is the average age of an Atlas guy/gal?

Freds Ex 02-12-2026 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by GRINGOMANDINGO (Post 4002876)
With all of the current merger/acquisition talk over here at Purple I have a genuine question. How would an SLI look between purple and Atlas? We are an older airline, what is the average age of an Atlas guy/gal?

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Birdsmash 02-12-2026 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by GRINGOMANDINGO (Post 4002876)
With all of the current merger/acquisition talk over here at Purple I have a genuine question. How would an SLI look between purple and Atlas? We are an older airline, what is the average age of an Atlas guy/gal?

The last merger at Atlas was based on DOH.

ATPbuilder 02-12-2026 06:17 PM

Old and young with not a lot in the middle. Idk how else to say it

Roverruckus 02-13-2026 04:23 PM

average age is 46 right now I believe.

TiredSoul 02-13-2026 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Roverruckus (Post 4003305)
average age is 46 right now I believe.

That is correct.
Some have aged better than others.

SealingStemBolt 02-14-2026 07:23 PM

Don’t you worry. JD will make sure you guys get stapled to the bottom of his baby’s list.

But seriously, an SLI will probably go by the tremendous amount of regulation on the subject. It’ll be more or less 1:1 which, at worst, means a few Atlas alumni find themselves junior to themselves (had they stayed).

None of this is likely to happen so I wouldn’t worry about it.

GRINGOMANDINGO 02-16-2026 12:00 PM

Appreciate the replies. I think there's a strong case thats what fedex's vision for growth is. Just having a sidebar with a few buddies and we were curious the average age over there. Trying to plot out how it would all shake out. Still trying to figure out the whole amalgamation piece and determine if thats a threat or not.

SnarfSnarf 02-18-2026 01:09 AM

Wait, is there a real possibility of Fedex and Atlas merging? Like, are there real, verified talks going on?

Clue32 02-18-2026 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by SnarfSnarf (Post 4004512)
Wait, is there a real possibility of Fedex and Atlas merging? Like, are there real, verified talks going on?

No. There are no talks of a merger. This is all wild speculation.

ClappedOut145 02-20-2026 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 4004520)
No. There are no talks of a merger. This is all wild speculation.

The never ending FedEx rumor. lol. FDX ALPA has deeper pockets and larger numbers. They would come out ahead in an integration and IBT would be gone.

TG47 02-21-2026 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 4005333)
The never ending FedEx rumor. lol. FDX ALPA has deeper pockets and larger numbers. They would come out ahead in an integration and IBT would be gone.

We can only hope.

GRINGOMANDINGO 02-22-2026 09:15 AM

I'm not aware of any behind the curtain talks but it's definitely being talked about heavily among the crew force. That sucks y'all aren't happy with the IBT because ALPA is becoming less and less popular by the day on property over here.

dera 02-22-2026 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by GRINGOMANDINGO (Post 4005888)
I'm not aware of any behind the curtain talks but it's definitely being talked about heavily among the crew force. That sucks y'all aren't happy with the IBT because ALPA is becoming less and less popular by the day on property over here.

There are like 3 people here who keep repeating that Fedex rumor. And all of them have been 100% wrong on every rumor they start. And none of them have any insider knowledge.
So its definitely not heavily talked about among the Atlas crew force. Its more of a joke these days.

NorthernPilot1 03-10-2026 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 4002939)
The last merger at Atlas was based on DOH.

This is not true. It was Relative until the announcement date, then DOH for all the new hires after that date.

MELedMel 03-11-2026 01:07 AM

It would take MASSIVE goverment bribes to get them to not stamp this a monopoly

Birdsmash 03-11-2026 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by NorthernPilot1 (Post 4011643)
This is not true. It was Relative until the announcement date, then DOH for all the new hires after that date.

It was all based on DOH. Pilots hired after the announcement were integrated in order of their employee number which was based on DOH and seniority within the class (oldest most senior). As a very senior Southern pilot I lost relative seniority due to DOH once we integrated. In the end it didn’t make much difference within my fleet and monthly bidding.

NorthernPilot1 04-15-2026 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by Birdsmash (Post 4011709)
It was all based on DOH. Pilots hired after the announcement were integrated in order of their employee number which was based on DOH and seniority within the class (oldest most senior). As a very senior Southern pilot I lost relative seniority due to DOH once we integrated. In the end it didn’t make much difference within my fleet and monthly bidding.

Lol, maybe you should look into how it was done. Because nothing you just said is true. You'd know that if you spent 5 minutes looking at the seniority list. First employee numbers are not based on DOH and seniority in class. You're assigned one based on the order in which you were hired. The seniority attached to it is then based on DOH and seniority in class. For example, I was the most junior in my class, but I have the 2nd lowest employee number. There's also a handful of people that left and came back. They have their original employee number.
If you've ever looked at the master seniority list, you'd notice that there's both a seniority number and an employee number. Because the employee number doesn't mean anything.

No one lost anything but maybe a number or two in relative seniority since everyone that was hired before the merger was integrated based on their relative seniority. Anything else would have violated McCaskill-Bond.
If you were 10% at southern, I bet anything you're 9-11% at Atlas.

Birdsmash 04-15-2026 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by NorthernPilot1 (Post 4023540)
Lol, maybe you should look into how it was done. Because nothing you just said is true. You'd know that if you spent 5 minutes looking at the seniority list. First employee numbers are not based on DOH and seniority in class. You're assigned one based on the order in which you were hired. The seniority attached to it is then based on DOH and seniority in class. For example, I was the most junior in my class, but I have the 2nd lowest employee number. There's also a handful of people that left and came back. They have their original employee number.
If you've ever looked at the master seniority list, you'd notice that there's both a seniority number and an employee number. Because the employee number doesn't mean anything.

No one lost anything but maybe a number or two in relative seniority since everyone that was hired before the merger was integrated based on their relative seniority. Anything else would have violated McCaskill-Bond.
If you were 10% at southern, I bet anything you're 9-11% at Atlas.

There are some anomalies for sure on the Atlas seniority list due to the Polar merger mess, employees that left (lost their seniority) but came back and kept their previous employee number, etc. HOWEVER, the Southern merger was based solely on DOH. Of course those hired on the same date are based on age. There was no ratio, relative seniority, etc involved in the Atlas/Southern merger. I lost relative seniority as a result of DOH. Now, years later, it hasn’t really mattered.

MELedMel 04-15-2026 06:30 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/Pq8CdT4k/IMG-2122.jpg

For 95% of things this holds pretty true, factor they haven’t added pilots in like 3 yrs and the overtime has been nearly nil lately.

It’s like trying to surf a stagnant pond if you ain’t old enough for the Denny’s discount

C17B74 04-16-2026 12:22 AM

Easy Fix, despite having many friends at Purple we need a training fence for a long time regarding the 74.


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