Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1792690)

I really don't care if you know me or not...that is not the point here. It has to do with presenting the pluses and minuses here. It is not about me or you...it is about helping the applicants make the right decision.

I keep having to tell you and others to make a fair case so they can make a decision and see if they can live with the minuses, and are okay with the pluses.

But loyalist?...hardly.

And the abuses have been going on for much longer than 2 years...thankfully the culture has changed in the last 4-5 years, and we will continue to build our group so we can march into negotiations lock-step as one.

Originally Posted by JerrySpringer (Post 1792940)

Here are the pluses for a new hire:
- A chance to add international widebody to a resume to get a call at a legacy

- If you don't get called, hopefully enjoy a decent CBA in a few years

- We're not the bottom of this segment, but you can clearly see it.

- You can go some places that you won't anywhere else. (Purely intrinsic)

The negatives clearly outweigh the positives in this hiring environment.

"This is the life you've chosen" and "If you can't deal with the schedule why'd you come here?" are phrases way too often uttered in our cockpits. They clearly demonstrate a lack of SA by those speaking them.

Originally Posted by junglejet527 (Post 1792804)

Hey all,

Just wondering if someone can post the list of reciprocal carriers to jumpseat/nonrev for atlas? Starting class in a few weeks and want to have an idea. Thanks

Originally Posted by longhauler (Post 1793800)

i thought you were starting class on the 5th?

Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 1793839)

Classes being moved around is no doubt due to the fixing of the illegal vacancy award. No sweat fellas, better to delay class 2-3 weeks and know your new company is being held to the CBA.

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 1793962)

It still infuriates me that they even tried that. That was completely disrespectful to us.

Originally Posted by junglejet527 (Post 1793821)

I start on the 26th, was notified the same day I was offered the class on the 5th. I called Denise on Monday and asked if everything was going as planned, she told me my class was still being offered both planes. Should be hearing back tommorw as Kira was on vacation.

Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 1793983)

Yes, but my opinion has always been to not take it personally. It's business to them, and so it should be business to us. Leave emotions off the table and hold them to the CBA. As we all know, when Section 6 starts, they're going to try all manner of ways to get us to start fighting and arguing amongst ourselves. Let's step past the anger, and simply handle it just as company does.