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Ludicrous Speed 05-17-2016 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by NikeBuddy (Post 2130624)
I guess everyone's situation is different, but it is difficult to see why a senior 74 FO would take 76 CA at our rates. Schedule goes to pot, very little raise, seat locked for 3 years, when you could have waited for the 74 and gotten it before that 3 years, thus possibly making more if considering scheduling opportunities, and efficiencies. The break even point on the 76 upgrade makes little sense unless 74 protracts out 4+ years over the 76.

747 upgrades could easily come to a screeching halt. I am taking the classic advice of never passing up an upgrade. If things go Tango Uniform here and I cannot get on with Purple, Brown or a legacy (been there, done that) then wide-body PIC makes one quite marketable for Asian contract jobs.

Like you said, to each their own.

HVYMETALDRVR 05-18-2016 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by junglejet527 (Post 2130735)
Yeah, that initial cadre wouldnt be for FWL. Theyve been up and running for a while, its for another *******bag operator in Miami, 21Air.

Oh okay, thanks.

b190av8r 05-18-2016 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Tenacvols (Post 2130639)
I hear you, will be a good fall back plan for SWA. Good luck with your interview in June!!

Thank you sir!

BYOB 05-18-2016 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by b190av8r (Post 2131110)
Thank you sir!

B190av8r, check your PM.

b190av8r 05-18-2016 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by BYOB (Post 2131163)
B190av8r, check your PM.

It looks like you sent me a visitor message. ;) No worries. PM'd ya!

Otterbox 05-18-2016 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed (Post 2130817)
747 upgrades could easily come to a screeching halt. I am taking the classic advice of never passing up an upgrade. If things go Tango Uniform here and I cannot get on with Purple, Brown or a legacy (been there, done that) then wide-body PIC makes one quite marketable for Asian contract jobs.

Like you said, to each their own.

When one upgrades from do they lateral over to the CA payscale at the same years longevity (i.e. 747 FO@ 5 to 767 CA@5) or do they start out at the first year pay on the CA scale?

Tandem46 05-19-2016 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2131715)
When one upgrades from do they lateral over to the CA payscale at the same years longevity (i.e. 747 FO@ 5 to 767 CA@5) or do they start out at the first year pay on the CA scale?

It's just like any other 121 carrier. 5 yr FO becomes 5 yr Capt pay scale wise.

CallmeJB 05-19-2016 04:17 AM

All this talk of seat locks lifting or not is from language in the current CBA. Is it possible that we could get SOC and merge the seniority lists and fleets without having a new CBA?? I don't think so; the pilots and 1224 would never accept that, and we (1224) have to provide the merged list to move forward.

Point is, speculating about the ability to bid the 777 or back to the 747 after the merge is just that: speculation. There could be a whole new set of rules in the new CBA (and possibly fences).

Whiplash6 05-19-2016 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by CallmeJB (Post 2131760)
All this talk of seat locks lifting or not is from language in the current CBA. Is it possible that we could get SOC and merge the seniority lists and fleets without having a new CBA?? I don't think so; the pilots and 1224 would never accept that, and we (1224) have to provide the merged list to move forward.

Point is, speculating about the ability to bid the 777 or back to the 747 after the merge is just that: speculation. There could be a whole new set of rules in the new CBA (and possibly fences).

Not to mention that said CBA is probably 3 years from being signed into effect. Many won't even be on the seniority list by then. Much can change before this drug out process will finally be finalized.

c flyer 05-19-2016 02:53 PM

Jump sitting
 
Just a quick question for you guys. I was looking at hoping on a transoceanic jumpseat (HSV - LUX) and back. Typically how good is a space availability? My purpose for the flight is to get an idea of what a long haul flight looks like from the pilot perspective and to see if I would like that type of flying. Thanks.


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