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Hawkerdriver1 05-04-2022 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3416807)
Upcoming classes are:

747 - May 9 & 31, Jun 20
777 - May 2, Jun 6
767 - May 10, Jun 1 & 21
737 - May 3, Jun 7

Hi,

Just curious what kind of backgrounds are they putting in the 777. Me: 11,000+, 800+747-4 & current. Interview next week. Guessing 747-4. Thankful regardless of outcome.


HD

HPIC 05-04-2022 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by ZJM25 (Post 3416875)
The CJO doc they sent over to sign said 05/30. I don't believe they're accounting for flying in the day prior. Not that I am, anyway as I live 40 minutes away.

It’ll be the 30th then. The Union email just got the dates wrong I’m sure.

C17B74 05-04-2022 11:23 PM

No hits/thoughts/answers earlier when posted as its own thread so I will post it on our largest thread for info our Union or Union type experts (not me) can provide.

UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?

On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues

*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?

jrmyl 05-05-2022 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3416962)
It’ll be the 30th then. The Union email just got the dates wrong I’m sure.

Not sure about that. Friend of mine just got the offer today for a 74 course starting on 5/31.

ZJM25 05-05-2022 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by jrmyl (Post 3417278)
Not sure about that. Friend of mine just got the offer today for a 74 course starting on 5/31.

Hmmmm interesting. I just received an email with the training details and it states 05/30. I'd rather show up on the earlier date and not the latter one and realize I missed the 1st day.

RyeMex 05-05-2022 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3417272)
No hits/thoughts/answers earlier when posted as its own thread so I will post it on our largest thread for info our Union or Union type experts (not me) can provide.

UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?

On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues

*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?

CBA 26.W : "The Union agrees that during the term of the Agreement there will not be any... refusals to cross picket lines ...

Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed, however, to limit the rights of the Union or the Atlas Crew Members to refuse to cross lawful strike picket lines established by or on behalf of the pilots represented by any union lawfully certified or recognized pursuant to the Railway Labor Act."

Our rights and responsibilities are pretty clearly spelled out in the CBA, it seems to me. Is IPA planning on calling their own strike? Or will they just not be crossing the line made by the warehouse workers? I don't believe that we have any cover to refuse to cross a picket line that is created by a union that isn't a picket line for pilots.

Ibnav8r 05-05-2022 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by ZJM25 (Post 3416770)
Hey guys,
Will be coming onboard later this month. At the time I received my CJO email last week, I also received a separate email with the first training date and AC type (747), which I had to sign and submit. I cant see a copy of that doc anywhere online, and that has been the only reference to my fleet assignment. Is there anywhere else where I can confirm which A/C I'm assigned to?

thanks,

Email one of the "any questions" people and they can provide you with a non-disappearing copy of the letter.

zerozero 05-05-2022 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3417436)
CBA 26.W : "The Union agrees that during the term of the Agreement there will not be any... refusals to cross picket lines ...

Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed, however, to limit the rights of the Union or the Atlas Crew Members to refuse to cross lawful strike picket lines established by or on behalf of the pilots represented by any union lawfully certified or recognized pursuant to the Railway Labor Act."

Our rights and responsibilities are pretty clearly spelled out in the CBA, it seems to me. Is IPA planning on calling their own strike? Or will they just not be crossing the line made by the warehouse workers? I don't believe that we have any cover to refuse to cross a picket line that is created by a union that isn't a picket line for pilots.

Nothing except historical precedent. In years past, the company has actually been good about moving crews from hotel properties (as an example of a non-pilot group) that are actively on strike. The issues here are physical safety, noise, rest and fatigue.

I can assure you, this Teamster will not be crossing any strike picket lines whether they be in front of hotels or UPS/FDX/DHL/Amazon operations. As a Captain I'm responsible for the safety of my crew, not just in the air, but on the ground as well.

Ibnav8r 05-05-2022 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3416962)
It’ll be the 30th then. The Union email just got the dates wrong I’m sure.

All my stuff says 5/30. Travel on 5/29.

C17B74 05-05-2022 06:08 PM

Appreciate the info RyeMex and zerozero and your time. 👍


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