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JerrySpringer 12-11-2012 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by HeavyHauler (Post 1309418)
who is represented by 1224?

ABX and Omni are both 1224 767 operations.

Guasabara 12-11-2012 08:32 PM

So what of those in the pool right now with no 767 experience?

jetjock6 12-11-2012 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Guasabara (Post 1309744)
So what of those in the pool right now with no 767 experience?

They're just going to have to come to the 74 and fly around in their pajamas and be forced to work for more money. It sucks but such is life.

This is the life that you have chosen.

744driver 12-11-2012 10:45 PM

Working in your pajamas pales in comparison to having a higher seniority number!! I'm not sure that the new-hire 767 guys would agree with your view of the world from the mighty 747...seniority is everything. Wouldn't you agree?

I also see that it may not be a fair way to pick and choose the 767-qualified guys over those that are in the pool already, but the company is in a position (and has the need) to do it this way.

727gm 12-11-2012 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by jetjock6 (Post 1309757)
This is the life that you have chosen.

Where have I heard that before? ;)

GIANT PILOT 12-12-2012 12:58 AM

There is NO 767 short course being offered.

Polarfr8dog 12-12-2012 01:24 AM

heavyhauler . . . 1224 Teamsters . . .

No short course? Then someone is is going to be in trouble as below is a paste and copy from the email.

Atlas Air, Inc.’s short course training requirements are as follows: . . . See above post with the 1224 email

So if there's no short course the company gains experience. The guys/gals in the pool build there muscles. hmmm anyone have a stick to hit the hornets nest? Why would the company want to agree to that? Insurance? I don't know.

I can understand the union's point of view. There has to be a short course coming . ..

Whaledriver 12-12-2012 04:14 AM

There was a rumor that the FAA was putting pressure on the company to improve the 767 experience level thru hiring. Another rumor was AMC wanted more experience in the cockpits.

This is not a knock on the folks that are on the 767. Almost all the 76 Captains are new to the plane and there's a good chance that any future upgrades would be 744 FO's, again with no or little 76 experience.

GIANT PILOT 12-12-2012 04:18 AM

We've hired 767 qualified crews before and never put them through a short course, just don't see why we would change now, I read the 1224 post soliciting 767 crews, and there was mention of an approved short course, but what I heard at the Trng Ctr, was that there will not be a short course starting next week. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with this next class

Gnaw 12-12-2012 05:16 AM

Unless I'm missing it, that email does not state there would be a short course. It only states pilots would need to meet all of the company’s FAA-approved short course training qualifications..."

Also, aren't there two separate training facilities? So poolies that don't fall under this agreement will still have shots at a Jan 747 class as previously mentioned right?


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