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Old 11-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
Actually, such cases are pretty straight forward when informed. Especially after defending such cases.
If you've "defended" such a case, it's been you as a defendant. Very clearly you know nothing about aviation law, aviation regulation, or criminal law, other than having been charged. You're no attorney, and you've very obviously inexperienced in aviation.

How many times have you been charged with drunk driving?

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Apparently you have never made a mistake, come across a cop who made a mistake, nor ever confronted a "dirty cop" (yes, they exist).
Apparently?

One of us has worked in law enforcement. It's not you, though.

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Certainly if a Cop were being abusive, you would recommend to just keep your mouth shut, is that correct?
Unequivocally yes. Keep your trap shut in such a case. Document after the fact, as already stated. READ.

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You would also never be tempted with adultery because that NEVER happens in the aviation industry. /s

(or perhaps it just never happens for you?)
Adultery doesn't "happen" to you. You cause it. It's a positive action you must take. If you're stupid enough to commit adultery, particularly with a cop's wife, then you're apparently willing to accept the consequences. If you pick up one end of the stick, you see, you pick up the other. You'll learn this one day, if you live long enough.

Whether one is "tempted" or not is irrelevant, as being "tempted" is not a crime.

One can avoid "temptation" by avoiding the situation entirely. This is something within your control. To suggest that such things "happen" to someone is to suggest a world in which control is not possible. This is an aviation forum. Control is absolutely necessary. If you cannot control yourself, we have arrived at the root of your problem.

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Are you also of the "opinion" that you can be convicted of a DUI just by simply being by your car in a parking lot with keys in your pocket?
Depending on the jurisdiction, one can be cited with one or more of several possible charges. Whether those charges result in a conviction depends on information not in evidence; yes, conviction is possible. You can be cited for being intoxicated in your car on a public street, common area, parking lot, and even on your own private property and drive, and yes, you can be convicted of that charge. Yes, that conviction can impact your ability to hold a medical or be employed in the industry.

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I perhaps should have been more clear on my statement - "unconstitutional"

I should have added the word "arguably".
We have arrived at the full measure of your ignorance. You really don't understand, do you?

You have no right to hold a medical, constitutional, or otherwise. You have no right to hold a pilot certificate, and the constitution offers no relief. The FAA is chartered as an Act of Congress, charged with regulating, promoting, and enforcing aviation, and in the creation and maintenance or aviation regulation. Do you understand the difference between criminal law, civil law, and administrative law? Do you understand the differences in standards, processes, protections, and pitfalls? You do not. Your waffling on about "constitutional" this or that paints a clear picture of your ignorance on the subject.

Come clean. Your understanding of this subject, or what you deem your understanding, comes from having been charged or arrested for intoxication or operation under the influence, doesn't it? The reference to your axe to grind, made above, is spot on.

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The latest revision to section 18v is arguably unconstitutional.
Foot the bill. Tilt at that windmill. Battle it through, see where you get. See if you can find any constitutional right to hold a medical in the first place, then see if you have any way to apply the US Constitution to the medical standards in 14 CFR Part 67.

Yours is not the voice of an experienced attorney, altruistically seeking to right injustice in the system (do you have any idea how to go about changing the regulation?). Yours is not the voice of an experienced law enforcement officer sharing his street wisdom. Yours is not the song of an experienced airline transport pilot with a vast wealth of career moments from which to draw and share.

Yours is the voice of a 21-23 year old kid who wasn't bright enough to keep off the sauce or keep keys out of hand when drinking, and perhaps who did actually sleep with a cop's wife (god help you, kiddo, because it's not just that officer you'll need to watch out for, and being a pilot won't make a hill of beans difference).

Grow up, learn to handle a set of car keys and a drink, stay away from other men's wives, don't talk back to police officers acting in the capacity of their sworn duties, and for god's sake, grow a brain before you try to advance your career in the cockpit. You sound like a major mishap in the making.

For now, it's clear that any further interaction with you is a waste of life, space, breath, and wear on my keyboard, so you're off to the ignore list. Bye.

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Perfect. Just perfect.

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Old 11-06-2017, 08:29 PM
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These laws don't change themselves, if this bugs you so much, what ends have you pursued to get your elected representatives to change them? What groups have you contacted to assist?
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:29 AM
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Adultery doesn't "happen" to you. You cause it. It's a positive action you must take. If you're stupid enough to commit adultery, particularly with a cop's wife, then you're apparently willing to accept the consequences.
I think you are missing something here. The original poster stated that he did not commit adultery with the police officer's wife and that it was a high school crush that he flirted with briefly but got Dr. UNK instead of meeting her at DICKS.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
Since JohnBurke is allowed to profile me.

Am I allowed to profile him?

I would argue he is a crusty old FAA Inspector who couldn't get a real flying job. Perhaps had a previous job as a LEO and thinks LEO's can do no wrong. He tries to portray himself as a "Good Christian". He is obviously jealous of the kids today making more than he ever did, flying jets that he never could fly.

I have much more... but am I close John?
You can do whatever you want. Does it make you feel better about yourself? Sad.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
Opinions in the case of a DUI could mean the difference between 100 bucks or upwards of 15,000.

Which side do you want to be on?

Are you also of the "opinion" that you can be convicted of a DUI just by simply being by your car in a parking lot with keys in your pocket?

I think we should perhaps take it to a vote on this site. Because according to Rick and supported by John, "everybody" knows.

Wanna take a vote?

My position is not an opinion, it is fact.
That's not the law where I live. I can't speak for other areas.
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Originally Posted by ASTEROIDEA7 View Post
I think you are missing something here. The original poster stated that he did not commit adultery with the police officer's wife and that it was a high school crush that he flirted with briefly but got Dr. UNK instead of meeting her at DICKS.
You missed something here. Wasn't replying to you, but I did quote the poster to whom I replied. My reply was to the quoted material. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with the original poster, but a lot to do with the QUOTE to which I responded. Reading is key, here.
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
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I know you are reading, and you are correct, "but it is your approach"

I would argue, some people need to be spanked.
Oh I'm reading. It is my nightly entertainment when on the road - well this and B Horror movies on NetFliks.

Are you trying to reach ONE person or MANY people?

Btw - personally I think you are putting FAR too much faith in your opinion poll, but again - that is just me.
If it bolsters your argument - pile it on.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:21 PM
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Just do the HIMS evaluation. If you are not a abuser there will be no issue and problem solved.
That is very good advice. In many cases, the evaluation clears the pilot, and the HIMS committee is happy that their workload has not increased. Caution: a belligerent attitude and reluctant compliance will not obtain an unrestricted medical certificate. The FAA must be convinced that the pilot will stay in recovery after he is no longer being monitored. For those who need it, HIMS is a lifesaver.

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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
And now you recommend a HIMS program that could cost a pilot upwards of 15,000 over what could be a bogus arrest?
Not necessarily, but I recommend that a pilot get the evaluation if the FAA requests it. That will cost very little, and then he or she can review their options.

As to the BAC “allowance”, we were told that it exists because breathalyzers are not sufficiently accurate below a certain concentration.
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Originally Posted by MedicalTruth View Post
Tom, the fact of the matter is, you are a 767A (WTF is a 767A?) retired pilot who has been on this forum for more than a decade.

Do you even know consequences of the 2008 18v revision?
I guess you’re NOT a pilot because, if you were, you’d know what an “A” is.

You are tedious,

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