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TheFly 12-13-2018 02:12 AM

If no type rating is required for currency (which it isn’t), then the short answer is “yes”, it’s legal.

Kilroy 12-13-2018 05:34 AM

This was a 100% hypothetical question. I am going to fly one but with a CFI. No way I would jump in a small plane without a CFI. I was just curious since it’s same category and class. Thanks for all the reply’s.

TiredSoul 12-13-2018 07:22 AM

Legal yes.
Buy one and fly one.

USMCmech 12-14-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Kilroy (Post 2723108)
Was wondering (for legal reason only, not safety) technically I’m legal to fly a Cessna 310 without any check outs or flight instruction received if I was bold enough to just jump in one and fly since it’s the same category and class?

Despite what many think, there is no such thing as a "checkout" in the eyes of the FAA. If you are rated SEL, MEL you can fly anything that doesn't float and the wings don't spin.

Hop in any airplane not requiring a type (or the MU-2) and fire it right up. Not a safety issue for most fixed gear single engine airplanes, but anything exotic or twins it's not a good idea.

Triva time, what prop airplane over 12,500 doesn't require a type?

Cirrus2turbine 12-14-2018 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2723132)
That's really completely unrelated to this thread. Your question is a legal one as asked, though in reality it's safety related, and should be in it's own thread.

If you are legal insofar as currency in category and class (landings), you're legal to fly the airplane.

If you are not familiar, you should seek the necessary checkout, and you should treat it the same as the airbus you're flying now. It's sometimes said that a Piper Cub will still kill you, just a bit more slowly (which is not always true); the 310 will kill you just as the airbus...but faster. Understand the fuel system, understand the limitations, understand that Vmca is critical and the ability to get there easier and faster than in the Airbus, and you don't have second segment performance that you can depend on in the airbus. All likely familiar, but if you're not current in light airplanes or checked out in the airplane with recent experience, easy to get you in trouble, too.

Remember that in the airbus, you're looking for a return to the runway with an engine out. In the 310, depending on circumstance, you may not have that option. The 310 does better than many light twins on one engine, but it's still a light twin; if you're not current or checked out, approach it seriously, get the checkout and know the airplane.

Read the thread; your question has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.

I think he made it clear about safety and check out, etc etc etc. Why do people here feel the need to proselytize on and on about why he shouldn't without a check out. Was a simple question he was asking. What he legal. Yep, you are.

Cirrus2turbine 12-14-2018 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 2724125)
Did basically everyone here NOT read what this guy/gal said. He/She specifically stated legal and in parens not safety. If he/she has the awareness to state this, can’t we just answer the question as asked without giving a lecture stating reasons that this person probably is already aware.

End lecture.

To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.


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dustrpilot 12-14-2018 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by USMCmech (Post 2725294)
Despite what many think, there is no such thing as a "checkout" in the eyes of the FAA. If you are rated SEL, MEL you can fly anything that doesn't float and the wings don't spin.

Hop in any airplane not requiring a type (or the MU-2) and fire it right up. Not a safety issue for most fixed gear single engine airplanes, but anything exotic or twins it's not a good idea.

Triva time, what prop airplane over 12,500 doesn't require a type?



An MU-2 requires type specific training under an SFAR to fly it legally.
An AT-802 is a 16500 pound prop plane that can be flown without a type rating


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JamesNoBrakes 12-14-2018 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 2724125)
Did basically everyone here NOT read what this guy/gal said. He/She specifically stated legal and in parens not safety. If he/she has the awareness to state this, can’t we just answer the question as asked without giving a lecture stating reasons that this person probably is already aware.

End lecture.

To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.


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TiredSoul 12-14-2018 05:49 PM

Light twin ?
Ain’t nothing but two singles tied together....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...in_Mustang.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i.../F-82-test.jpg

http://warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/u...84dc5791_z.jpg

dustrpilot 12-14-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by dustrpilot (Post 2725343)
An MU-2 requires type specific training under an SFAR to fly it legally.
An AT-802 is a 16000 pound prop plane that can be flown without a type rating


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