Legal to Fly Light Twin Without Checkout?
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This was a 100% hypothetical question. I am going to fly one but with a CFI. No way I would jump in a small plane without a CFI. I was just curious since it’s same category and class. Thanks for all the reply’s.
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Hop in any airplane not requiring a type (or the MU-2) and fire it right up. Not a safety issue for most fixed gear single engine airplanes, but anything exotic or twins it's not a good idea.
Triva time, what prop airplane over 12,500 doesn't require a type?
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That's really completely unrelated to this thread. Your question is a legal one as asked, though in reality it's safety related, and should be in it's own thread.
If you are legal insofar as currency in category and class (landings), you're legal to fly the airplane.
If you are not familiar, you should seek the necessary checkout, and you should treat it the same as the airbus you're flying now. It's sometimes said that a Piper Cub will still kill you, just a bit more slowly (which is not always true); the 310 will kill you just as the airbus...but faster. Understand the fuel system, understand the limitations, understand that Vmca is critical and the ability to get there easier and faster than in the Airbus, and you don't have second segment performance that you can depend on in the airbus. All likely familiar, but if you're not current in light airplanes or checked out in the airplane with recent experience, easy to get you in trouble, too.
Remember that in the airbus, you're looking for a return to the runway with an engine out. In the 310, depending on circumstance, you may not have that option. The 310 does better than many light twins on one engine, but it's still a light twin; if you're not current or checked out, approach it seriously, get the checkout and know the airplane.
Read the thread; your question has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.
If you are legal insofar as currency in category and class (landings), you're legal to fly the airplane.
If you are not familiar, you should seek the necessary checkout, and you should treat it the same as the airbus you're flying now. It's sometimes said that a Piper Cub will still kill you, just a bit more slowly (which is not always true); the 310 will kill you just as the airbus...but faster. Understand the fuel system, understand the limitations, understand that Vmca is critical and the ability to get there easier and faster than in the Airbus, and you don't have second segment performance that you can depend on in the airbus. All likely familiar, but if you're not current in light airplanes or checked out in the airplane with recent experience, easy to get you in trouble, too.
Remember that in the airbus, you're looking for a return to the runway with an engine out. In the 310, depending on circumstance, you may not have that option. The 310 does better than many light twins on one engine, but it's still a light twin; if you're not current or checked out, approach it seriously, get the checkout and know the airplane.
Read the thread; your question has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.
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Did basically everyone here NOT read what this guy/gal said. He/She specifically stated legal and in parens not safety. If he/she has the awareness to state this, can’t we just answer the question as asked without giving a lecture stating reasons that this person probably is already aware.
End lecture.
To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.
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End lecture.
To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.
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Should have seen this before I chimed in, but good on you!
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Despite what many think, there is no such thing as a "checkout" in the eyes of the FAA. If you are rated SEL, MEL you can fly anything that doesn't float and the wings don't spin.
Hop in any airplane not requiring a type (or the MU-2) and fire it right up. Not a safety issue for most fixed gear single engine airplanes, but anything exotic or twins it's not a good idea.
Triva time, what prop airplane over 12,500 doesn't require a type?
Hop in any airplane not requiring a type (or the MU-2) and fire it right up. Not a safety issue for most fixed gear single engine airplanes, but anything exotic or twins it's not a good idea.
Triva time, what prop airplane over 12,500 doesn't require a type?
An MU-2 requires type specific training under an SFAR to fly it legally.
An AT-802 is a 16500 pound prop plane that can be flown without a type rating
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Did basically everyone here NOT read what this guy/gal said. He/She specifically stated legal and in parens not safety. If he/she has the awareness to state this, can’t we just answer the question as asked without giving a lecture stating reasons that this person probably is already aware.
End lecture.
To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.
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End lecture.
To answer the question, yes you would be legal assuming you’ve managed 3 takeoffs and landings in 90 days in the Airbus.
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