Reporting inflight fire after time limit
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Reporting inflight fire after time limit
Last year I flew for a multi aircraft 135 operator. A few months ago I had an inflight fire with passengers on board. I declared and landed. Company made a big deal about down playing the issue and I was told not to make a big deal out of it as it didn't rise to the level of what the company considered an inflight fire. It was just a "burnt electronic". I filed the company safety report and a NASA report as well. I eventually parted ways with the company and moved up in the world of aviation.
Subsequently the FAA got involved for a different event and was made aware of the issue. I am now a witness for the FAA into some chicanary at the 135, but not (as far as I know) a subject of investigation. But I never personally notified the NTSB. At every 135 I was told everything is done through the company and my Chief Pilot or someone at the company would be responsible for dealing with the FAA. All I do is make the company report and the company takes it from there.
Well the company never notified the NTSB. I fall under the definition of "operator" as PIC for FAR definitions. Should I reach out to the NTSB at this point? Or just let it go? It's been months and the aircraft has been repaired and placed back into service.
Subsequently the FAA got involved for a different event and was made aware of the issue. I am now a witness for the FAA into some chicanary at the 135, but not (as far as I know) a subject of investigation. But I never personally notified the NTSB. At every 135 I was told everything is done through the company and my Chief Pilot or someone at the company would be responsible for dealing with the FAA. All I do is make the company report and the company takes it from there.
Well the company never notified the NTSB. I fall under the definition of "operator" as PIC for FAR definitions. Should I reach out to the NTSB at this point? Or just let it go? It's been months and the aircraft has been repaired and placed back into service.
#2
You were not the operator. The company was the operator, and responsible for notifying the NTSB.
Your NASA report should be enough.
Note: I have had two inflight cockpit fires, both due to smoking material in the trash bag (way back when smoking was legal on commercial aircraft). In both cases, the extinguishing agent was coffee. Nobody even considered writing this up.
Joe
Your NASA report should be enough.
Note: I have had two inflight cockpit fires, both due to smoking material in the trash bag (way back when smoking was legal on commercial aircraft). In both cases, the extinguishing agent was coffee. Nobody even considered writing this up.
Joe
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The definition section of 830 indicates the operator is the owner of the aircraft or lessee, the person that causes the aircraft to be operated, but doesn't specifically say pilot, so I think it's safe to say they consider the operator to be the company. The FAA requirement is to submit a report within 10 days if you have to deviate from any 14 CFR for the purpose of an emergency. That one applies to "any person", so that would include a pilot.
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Can’t edit from my phone for some reason.
In addition from 830.15
In addition from 830.15
A report on an incident for which immediate notification is required by § 830.5(a) shall be filed only as requested by an authorized representative of the Board.
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