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downsizing CA bases?

Will Alaska do it?

Will other airlines follow?

https://i.ibb.co/SJtg5dH/4816-EBE4-6...960-E2-E15.jpg

Or just stop serving California.

That'll learn 'em.

Lots of ways to work around this. The CA legislature has issue at least one carve-out on this already, for security guards so they can eat lunch on the premises and still be "on call" in the event of an alarm. FA's are similar. Pilots are a little harder, because while an FA can be relieved of all except emergency duty, the PM needs to always monitor. But sanity has to prevail, if not in SMF then Congress can fix it... federal law can simply specify that state labor law doesn't apply to crew operating a flight.

https://i.ibb.co/vvsmfsP/620361-E1-8852-477-E-BF03-B89-B0102-A874.jpg

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/jetblue-flight-attendants-settle-calif-wage-row-36-mln-2022-08-15/

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Airline accused of not paying for missed breaks
Recent rulings said airlines must comply with state wage laws
U.S. Supreme Court has declined to wade in

(Reuters) - JetBlue Airways Corp will pay $3.6 million to more than 500 flight attendants to settle a longrunning lawsuit accusing the airline of violating California law by failing to pay the workers when they were forced to skip breaks.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs in the 2015 proposed class action filed a proposed settlement in San Francisco federal court on Friday. JetBlue has denied wrongdoing.

The settlement includes up to $900,000 in attorneys' fees.

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AMERICAN AIRLINES

American Airlines to Close Flight Attendant Base in San Francisco After Supreme Court Ruling On Work Breaks, Report

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ShutterstockAmerican Airlines is reportedly preparing to close a flight attendant base in San Francisco according to several sources cited by respected aviation insider xJonNYC. The decision comes just months after the Supreme Court ruled that airlines must abide by California’s generous Labor Code for locally based flight attendants.

The state grants employees who work for more than five hours an uninterrupted 30-minute meal break. A second break is required for employees who work for more than 10 hours, and transportation workers are generally entitled to an additional 10-minute break for every four hours at work.
A group of flight attendants at the now-defunct Virgin America airline took the airline to court over the carrier’s refusal to abide by California’s rest break laws because the airline argued, flight attendant rest breaks were governed by federal rules that superseded State laws

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American settles with flight attendants

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...d-meal-breaks/

"American Airlines has reached a $24 million settlement with California-based flight attendants who accused the airline of breaking a raft of local labor rules, including generous meal break provisions and overtime payments in a long-running class action lawsuit.

If approved by the court, the settlement, reported by aviation insider @xJonNYC on X, will cover all flight attendants who were based in California between 2015 and September 2023, with potentially thousands of crew members in line for a payout.

The case has been dragging on for several years in the Los Angeles Superior Court, but as part of the settlement agreement, the court will not rule on whether American Airlines actually broke the law...."

I suspect over the next 10 years you will see the size of flight attendants bases in CA shrink substantially with some going away.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3746074)

I suspect over the next 10 years you will see the size of flight attendants bases in CA shrink substantially with some going away.

You already see a lot of CA flying being served out of LAS, PHX, SEA, and even PDX. The crews are just as happy to NIT be dealing with the CA Franchise Tax people. California ain't the place it once was.

As a "business decision" closing CA bases or letting them smolder out as retirements happen, is what the bean counters and legal have decided is best. CA has extensive pro-employee labor laws, high minimum wage requirements, and other stuff.

Some links:

https://money.usnews.com/careers/sal...-worker-rights

https://thehill.com/changing-america...orkers-report/

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Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3746078)

California ain't the place it once was.

California never was.

The west has long been poisoned by a steady, seemingly endless suppoly of californians getting out, who sell their ridiculously expensive homes and buy a mountain or a mansion somewhere outside of californiastan; who move into some place in the west and immediately declare "we need to do it like we did in california" and attempt to change their new home to be more like the place they just escaped, and who complain endlessly about life outside california, and who reminice about how good california used to be.

It was never good.