High Altitude/High Performance
08-29-2009, 05:40 AM
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High Altitude/High Performance
I am a soon to be furloughed pilot. I have flown the Dash 8 for a little more than a year and a half. Never have I gotten a high altitude or high performance as it is not required for 121. Even though I have proven that I can operate an aircraft that is high altitude and high performance, will I need to go out and get one in order to find a job such as 135 cargo or King Air?
08-29-2009, 08:25 AM
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In 91 you will need the endorsement because it is a PIC endorsement, so your 121 SIC training does not count.
But actually, if you fly with a CA who is a CFI (a real CFI, not an ATP giving instruction) he might be willing to give you the endorsement. You just log the flight and ground training (the "ground" would be conducted in cruise flight of course). The grey area here is emergency descent procedures...obviously you may not want to do the full procedure on a revenue flight. Maybe a repo flight?
But actually, if you fly with a CA who is a CFI (a real CFI, not an ATP giving instruction) he might be willing to give you the endorsement. You just log the flight and ground training (the "ground" would be conducted in cruise flight of course). The grey area here is emergency descent procedures...obviously you may not want to do the full procedure on a revenue flight. Maybe a repo flight?
08-29-2009, 03:26 PM
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Well so much for that idea. The good news is that the endorsement is so easy to do that a prospective employer should have no problem knocking it out during your training. As you pointed out, you already know how to fly a pressurized turboprop...the HA endorsement should not be a deal breaker.
08-29-2009, 05:35 PM
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As a follow up question, I never did the hi-alt endorsement either, got hired and flew the SAAB (no need for hi-alt) then went to work for a compnay who gave me a A320 type (PIC even though I fly SIC). I did train the hi-alt stuff, and it is in my training records. Do those records count as an endorsement or would I have to get an endorsement to fly something else Pt 91 or 135?
08-29-2009, 08:40 PM
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If you have a 320 PIC type from a US 121 (or 135) operator, that counts. You probably do not need any additional documentation, if the question ever came up you could show them your pilot cert with the type. It's remotely possible they might ask where you got the type, since a type acquired overseas or at a school would not count because of the way the regs are worded (121 or 135 only IIRC). The worst they could do would be to ask for documentation from the airline, but a copy of the 8710 should do the trick (which they should have anyway).
08-30-2009, 02:36 PM
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Someone answer me this... 61.31(g) talk about not needing a high alt endorsement unless you fly a "pressurized aircraft." But out in the parenthesis it says that "(an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maxiumum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000)". Lets say for instance we are flying a Turbo B58 and the service cig is 280.. would you need a high atl endorsement if it's not pressurized?
08-30-2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jowersman
Someone answer me this... 61.31(g) talk about not needing a high alt endorsement unless you fly a "pressurized aircraft." But out in the parenthesis it says that "(an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maxiumum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000)". Lets say for instance we are flying a Turbo B58 and the service cig is 280.. would you need a high atl endorsement if it's not pressurized?
08-31-2009, 06:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it only applies to pressurized aircraft.
It's also worth noting that you need the endorsement to fly such an airplane at ANY altitude...you cannot even do a low altitude flight without the endorsement.
It's also worth noting that you need the endorsement to fly such an airplane at ANY altitude...you cannot even do a low altitude flight without the endorsement.
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